nerdmann
9 years ago





Bad investment. First of all you are giving up a 1st round pick. Then to get anything out of him he has to get substantial enough playing time that another team is confident in his ability. The playing time has to be fairly early enough that a team won't just be willing to wait out his contract if there's only a year left. He also has to play pro-bowl like in his probably small amount of opportunity just to even break even with a 1st round pick. To me all of that just doesn't seem that likely. Even less likely to land more than a 1st in the end.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



He'll get a QB school, then TC and preseason. Maybe another next year.

Thing is, he's kind of a sandlot guy. Might have alot to learn. Kind of reminds me of a young Matt Flynn, only with a bit stronger arm.
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luigis
9 years ago
Of course and convert him to safety!


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9 years ago

Of course and convert him to safety!

Originally Posted by: luigis 



[palm] Why didn't I think of the obvious. Of course GB will draft Jordan Lynch and move him to safety so how many QB converted to safeties do you want?
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mi_keys
9 years ago

[palm] Why didn't I think of the obvious. Of course GB will draft Jordan Lynch and move him to safety so how many QB converted to safeties do you want?

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Worked out well enough for Tanner McEvoy and the Badgers last year.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I know some are thinking about this in correlation to when Aaron Rodgers was drafted.

Lets back up.

2005 - Brett Favre had already begun his waffling about retiring.
Favre was 35 years old
Favre had started over 200 games



2014 - Aaron Rodgers has stated he feels he is in the middle of his career. Coincidence?
Rodgers is 30 years old
Rodgers has started less than 100 games





2005 it made sense to draft the heir apparent.
2014 it does NOT make sense to draft the heir apparent. Especially with all the rules putting sparkling dresses on QB's.





And if you draft Johnny Manziel hoping to trade him, that is a mistake Ted Thompson will not ever EVER make. He is not a count your chickens before they hatch kind of person. He is not going to dismiss his scouting efforts on the HOPE that someone gives him picks on a player 31 teams know he does not need.













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nerdmann
9 years ago

Of course and convert him to safety!

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Can he return punts?
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Can he return punts?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Since when is a punt returner needed?
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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago

Since when is a punt returner needed?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Don't we always need a punt returner?
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warhawk
9 years ago
Ted would have to know there are at least two teams out there chomping at the bit for this guy. If there were only one there isn't much leverage for us holding a player everybody and their brother knows we don't want to keep.

The leverage would come from having absolute certainty there are multiple teams that will call.

This would almost take a separate board in itself. Ted's team would have to track how many other QB's were selected, how many QB needy teams are left, AND, what picks do these teams have remaining that would make this a good deal for the Packers.

If Manziel is still sitting there it probably means there was not a run on QBs. If other projected 1st rounders are also still around then this is an easy decision. PASS.

If Manziel is passed over for two or three other QB's you would really have to know what the remaining QB needy teams feel about him.

The QB position has such a high failure rate anyhow I wouldn't bother messing with that position until it became absolutely necessary. The odds are just as good Ted finds a QB later on in one of the next few drafts that has the "it" factor they can groom for down the road.




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9 years ago
I would love Manziel to fall to 21.

I would start calling teams about trades as soon as he fell to, say, 18. "If he's still here, I'll let you have the pick for a early second and a third and a fifth" or something like that."

No way I draft him. But falling quarterbacks are a dream scenario in this draft. The more of them fall, the farther they fall, the better. Because every one means a possible trade down for extra top 100 picks.

Imagine if three or four of them were available at 21. One trades up to get Manziel or Bortles, the next to get Carr, the next to get Bridgewater.



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