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Offline wpr  
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:29:24 AM(UTC)
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Wade all your trading down would drive me crazy. I would be a sniper in a bell tower somewhere and people would be wondering why. When I mumbled something about that damn "Uncle Teddy" no one outside this board would have a clue since I have no Uncle named Teddy, Ted or Theodore.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:39:57 AM(UTC)
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Postal.

Yeah, I understand this draft is perceived to be deep, but you do want to get the best players you can out of a deep draft. Not to mention, for a real mock, there has to be some realistic expectations of the kinds of trades that can be made. Trades are not easy to pull off. I would imagine there will be a ton of teams wanting to trade down for the same reasons many in the draft game do.

Maybe this is the year Ted finds partners to trade up, as well as down. He does seem pretty masterful when it comes to closing draft day deals. All I care is that he lands some really good players for us. If he somehow walks away with 5 really solid players at their respective positions, I'll be happy and consider this team improved. Having 4 in the top 100 to start is a big help.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:33:40 AM(UTC)
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Buckeye, since Clinton-Dix actually DID last until #21 in your stand pat draft, why would you say you don't think he will last that long? In most of the mock drafts I've seen, he is still there. I like that one of yours mainly because you went back for another Safety in the 3rd round too.

Wade, as I have said, with the Packer propensity to cross-train O-Linemen to play Center and to not do a lot of sophisticated stuff from the Center position, I really don't think they should or will draft a Center until very late if at all.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:50:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Buckeye, since Clinton-Dix actually DID last until #21 in your stand pat draft, why would you say you don't think he will last that long? In most of the mock drafts I've seen, he is still there. I like that one of yours mainly because you went back for another Safety in the 3rd round too.

Wade, as I have said, with the Packer propensity to cross-train O-Linemen to play Center and to not do a lot of sophisticated stuff from the Center position, I really don't think they should or will draft a Center until very late if at all.


Out of curiosity, which mocks have Dix available at 21? I think all of the nfl.com and a few others I've looked at all have him gone by the Rams at 13 or Bears at 14. I'd be ecstatic if he fell to us, mind you.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:30:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
Out of curiosity, which mocks have Dix available at 21? I think all of the nfl.com and a few others I've looked at all have him gone by the Rams at 13 or Bears at 14. I'd be ecstatic if he fell to us, mind you.


Yeah, I've seen him in the 10-15 range. But, stocks do fall, and maybe his does. I still question whether or not he is all of that. Is it his SEC experience that is driving up his stock? Because, to me, there are a handful more guys playing the position with equal or better skills/measureables. Pure, layman's fan perspective though. Sure, he is a good player and I would't mind at all if he were our pick. Not one bit.

Agree on the mocks. I haven't seen him falling.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:10:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I've seen him in the 10-15 range. But, stocks do fall, and maybe his does. I still question whether or not he is all of that. Is it his SEC experience that is driving up his stock? Because, to me, there are a handful more guys playing the position with equal or better skills/measureables. Pure, layman's fan perspective though. Sure, he is a good player and I would't mind at all if he were our pick. Not one bit.

Agree on the mocks. I haven't seen him falling.


I don't watch enough college football outside of the Badgers to claim to be anything approaching an expert. So we're discussing layman to layman.

I'm curious who you look at with equal or better skills/measurables. Pryor is two inches shorter and ran the same 40 time. He looks and tested stronger. I love his hits but despise that he never appears to wrap up. We've seen enough missed tackles the past few years. Maybe that could be fixed with coaching, though. I'd be happy with Pryor as well.

Terrence Brooks looks like he has fantastic speed and range. He's two inches shorter but tested much better in the vertical. I read he had trouble catching the ball and also doesn't like to wrap up. He'd probably be a good shout on the second day.

Maybe you mean some of the guys that are projected a little bit later?

In any event, he seems like a good all-around safety prospect. I like his pedigree and what I read about him. Then again, it would be fair to say some of the Alabama and other SEC prospects have been overhyped coming out (thankfully, that wasn't the case with Lacy).

I actually like Mosley and would hope to get one of the other guys later but I am a little worried about Mosley's injury history.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:49:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mi_keys Go to Quoted Post
I don't watch enough college football outside of the Badgers to claim to be anything approaching an expert. So we're discussing layman to layman.

I'm curious who you look at with equal or better skills/measurables. Pryor is two inches shorter and ran the same 40 time. He looks and tested stronger. I love his hits but despise that he never appears to wrap up. We've seen enough missed tackles the past few years. Maybe that could be fixed with coaching, though. I'd be happy with Pryor as well.

Terrence Brooks looks like he has fantastic speed and range. He's two inches shorter but tested much better in the vertical. I read he had trouble catching the ball and also doesn't like to wrap up. He'd probably be a good shout on the second day.

Maybe you mean some of the guys that are projected a little bit later?

In any event, he seems like a good all-around safety prospect. I like his pedigree and what I read about him. Then again, it would be fair to say some of the Alabama and other SEC prospects have been overhyped coming out (thankfully, that wasn't the case with Lacy).

I actually like Mosley and would hope to get one of the other guys later but I am a little worried about Mosley's injury history.


Yeah mi_keys, I like SS Deone Bucannon 6-1 211 out of Washington State, FS Jonathan Dowling 6-3 198 out of Western Kentucky, FS Ed Reynolds 6-1 207 out of Stanford, and SS Ahmad Dixon 6-0 212 out of Baylor - all of them as much or more than Clinton-Dix or Pryor. I would say Reynolds if only for the size in projecting him to the NFL and what we are seeing today. The others, Bucannon, Dowling and Dixon are all super solid tacklers and have a knack for picking the ball or forcing TOs.

Clinton-Dix is a 4.54-4.58 guys speed wise, had 56 tackles, 2 INTs last season and 6 passes defended. Was also suspended for 2 games. That gives me some pause, when we are talking top 10-15 in draft order.

Compare to Bucannon's 4.49 40 time, 78 solo tackles (114 total), 6 INTs (15 on his career), 3 FFs, has a larger presence about him. I consider him the #1 S in this draft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSTaBtWItE

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http://www.arrowheadprid...ling-fs-western-kentucky

Dixon posted a 4.64 40 time, but he ran a 4.48 in his workout and has run a 4.39. 81 tackles (288 career), 1 INT (4 career) and 1 FF. This guy is just super strong at sniffing out run plays and crushing them. Solid, fast, willing tackler with an attitude.
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BTW, don't get me wrong. I will be happy to get any of the guys we've mentioned, as I believe we will improve greatly having just one of these players added to our D. I'd love for us to add two.

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#23 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:19:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Buckeye, since Clinton-Dix actually DID last until #21 in your stand pat draft, why would you say you don't think he will last that long? In most of the mock drafts I've seen, he is still there. I like that one of yours mainly because you went back for another Safety in the 3rd round too.

Wade, as I have said, with the Packer propensity to cross-train O-Linemen to play Center and to not do a lot of sophisticated stuff from the Center position, I really don't think they should or will draft a Center until very late if at all.


Well, I wasn't trying to predict what they will do, only my particular version of what I would do (or, maybe, what I want them to do).

The only time I correctly predicted one of TT's draft pick's was A J Hawk.

(And it wasn't the one I wanted/argued for either.)

I do like first-pick.com, though. Obviously it makes trades too easy, but for some reason I like it better than the usual "here's my mock" approach. More interactive/participatory/detailed/constrained-by-something-other-than-the-mocker's-own-opinions.

Actually, IMO, its damnably addictive for me....I think I've already done at least twenty iterations with different strategies....how a "need-based" works out differently than a "pure BPA", how "trade down for value" might take one in different directions, how the draft tactics and strategy evolve on the fly as other team's picks vary from the last iteration.

IMO whoever thought it up is a genius, and as soon as I have a few bucks (next paycheck), I'm going to donate to the site.

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#24 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:02:19 PM(UTC)
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There are 16 Offensive players who are rated high enough to be drafted in the 1st rnd.

What I hope happens is the teams drafting ahead of The Packers draft these players.

The Packers could use a TE(Ebron) or O-lineman(Martin), even one of the top WR's would be nice, but if Offensive players go high and often, that leaves plenty of defensive players for Ted to pick and choose from.

01 Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida QB
02 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M OT
03 Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M QB
04 Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson WR
05 Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville QB
06 Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn OT
07 Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame OT
08 Odell Beckham, WR, LSU WR
09 Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
10 Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
11 Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina TE
12 Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M WR
13 Tre Mason, RB, Auburn RB
14 Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State WR
15 Marcus Martin, C, Southern California C
16 Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State QB

Here is a list of 22 Defensive players which Ted should be able to grab at least 2 of them without trading up.

01 Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina DE
02 Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh DT
03 Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
04 Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo OLB
05 Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama FS
06 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
07 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
08 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
09 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
10 Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
11 Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young
12 Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
13 Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville
14 Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State
15 Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
16 Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
17 Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
18 Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
19 Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
20 Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona State
21 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
22 Terrence Brooks, FS, Florida State

One thing I have learned is there are plenty of high rated DT's in this draft, a really good one (Anthony Johnson) always seems to still available late into the 3rd rnd.

Ted could grab a TE or WR in the 1st or 2nd and still have a shot at D-line help in the 3rd.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:21:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan Go to Quoted Post
There are 16 Offensive players who are rated high enough to be drafted in the 1st rnd.

What I hope happens is the teams drafting ahead of The Packers draft these players.

The Packers could use a TE(Ebron) or O-lineman(Martin), even one of the top WR's would be nice, but if Offensive players go high and often, that leaves plenty of defensive players for Ted to pick and choose from.

01 Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida QB
02 Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M OT
03 Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M QB
04 Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson WR
05 Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville QB
06 Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn OT
07 Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame OT
08 Odell Beckham, WR, LSU WR
09 Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
10 Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
11 Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina TE
12 Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M WR
13 Tre Mason, RB, Auburn RB
14 Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State WR
15 Marcus Martin, C, Southern California C
16 Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State QB

Here is a list of 22 Defensive players which Ted should be able to grab at least 2 of them without trading up.

01 Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina DE
02 Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh DT
03 Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
04 Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo OLB
05 Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama FS
06 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
07 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
08 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
09 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
10 Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
11 Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young
12 Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
13 Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville
14 Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State
15 Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
16 Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
17 Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
18 Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
19 Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
20 Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona State
21 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama
22 Terrence Brooks, FS, Florida State

One thing I have learned is there are plenty of high rated DT's in this draft, a really good one (Anthony Johnson) always seems to still available late into the 3rd rnd.

Ted could grab a TE or WR in the 1st or 2nd and still have a shot at D-line help in the 3rd.


I agree buckeye. That is a boatload of defensive talent up top, the majority of which should push down our way. The best part about that is we need exactly that. As much as I would like for Ted to pop on one of the big WRs early should one fall. We should fare pretty well in this draft.

One of the guys I'm not too thrilled about from your list is Brooks the FS. He doesn't have the speed or the physical presence to get the job done.

Another is Roby the CB (not because he's from Ohio State!). This is a bit of a concern with Roby:
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Now, just so you know I'm playing completely fair... another one that I question is Carl Bradford from ASU, and I'm an ASU Alumni! I just wonder if he can make that big of a difference on our D:
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Fuller and Varrett are great calls at CB.
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#26 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:40:09 PM(UTC)
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Which of the defensive players on that list do you think has a reasonable chance of falling to the 21st pick in the second round, buckeye?

Oh, I'm sure there will be a one that surprises everyone by falling, but other than that, here's how I see the likelihood of each actually falling that far.


01 Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina DE No way.
02 Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh DT No way.
03 Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State No way.
04 Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo OLB No way.
05 Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama FS No way.
06 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State No way.
07 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA No way.
08 Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State No way.
09 Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA Er, listed him twice, but still no way.
10 Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame Should, but won't.
11 Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young No way.
12 Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State No way.
13 Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville No way.
14 Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State Most likely.
15 Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina Small chance.
16 Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech No way.
17 Jason Verrett, CB, TCU No way.
18 Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri No way.
19 Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State Should, but won't.
20 Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona State Maybe.
21 C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama No way.
22 Terrence Brooks, FS, Florida State Long shot.

Which would you say?

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#27 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 6:27:52 AM(UTC)
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#28 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 4:42:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Yeah mi_keys, I like SS Deone Bucannon 6-1 211 out of Washington State, FS Jonathan Dowling 6-3 198 out of Western Kentucky, FS Ed Reynolds 6-1 207 out of Stanford, and SS Ahmad Dixon 6-0 212 out of Baylor - all of them as much or more than Clinton-Dix or Pryor. I would say Reynolds if only for the size in projecting him to the NFL and what we are seeing today. The others, Bucannon, Dowling and Dixon are all super solid tacklers and have a knack for picking the ball or forcing TOs.

Clinton-Dix is a 4.54-4.58 guys speed wise, had 56 tackles, 2 INTs last season and 6 passes defended. Was also suspended for 2 games. That gives me some pause, when we are talking top 10-15 in draft order.

Compare to Bucannon's 4.49 40 time, 78 solo tackles (114 total), 6 INTs (15 on his career), 3 FFs, has a larger presence about him. I consider him the #1 S in this draft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSTaBtWItE

Dowling's 40 time was 4.52, 67 tackles, 3 INTs (9 on career), 6 FFs 7 passes defended. Watch the hit on this QB, The 3 picks, the strip from behind on a jail break play, then skip the last video and erase it from your memory! Laughing
http://www.arrowheadprid...ling-fs-western-kentucky

Dixon posted a 4.64 40 time, but he ran a 4.48 in his workout and has run a 4.39. 81 tackles (288 career), 1 INT (4 career) and 1 FF. This guy is just super strong at sniffing out run plays and crushing them. Solid, fast, willing tackler with an attitude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-eILuV_xk

BTW, don't get me wrong. I will be happy to get any of the guys we've mentioned, as I believe we will improve greatly having just one of these players added to our D. I'd love for us to add two.


Bucannon:
I'd only read a little bit on Bucannon til this pint but, ah, someone who can hit AND wraps up. That's nice to see. He did get dragged on a couple of his tackles but he at least wrapped the guy up. Some of the interceptions/pass defenses were in cases where the coverage was beat but the throw was horrible. That said, he at least showed good ball skills to make the offense pay on those mistakes. The two interceptions against Oregon were solid. I trust you've seen him a fair bit of him in the Pac 12 being an ASU fan. Where I've seen him projected (4th round, maybe 5th), I think that would be a great pick.

Dowling:
Lol, I'd seen his videos and that last one is pathetic. Great game against Kentucky. He's interesting.

Dixon:
Dixon is someone I really like too. Some of the projections have him in the 4h-5th round too, which I think would be a steal.

One other note: you mention Brooks doesn't have the physical presence or speed to get the job done. He ran a 4.42 40 at the combine. I agree that he's on the small side though.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:32:55 AM(UTC)
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mi_keys, I believe I was wrong for the same reasons with Brooks - as I was looking more for stature - my bad. Terrence Brooks looks to be just the kind of player Ted Thompson would add to his roster. Super smart, instinctive, effective student of the game... Maybe he's the choice in place of either Pryor or Bucannon here.

Thought I would throw another mock down, this time straight up with no trades:

R1 21. FS Calvin Pryor Louisville 5-11 207
R2 53. DE Kareem Martin North Carolina 6-6 272
R3 85. SS Deone Bucannon Washington 6-1 211
R3 98. ILB Telvin Smith Florida State 6-3 218
R4 121.CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska 6-3 220
R5 161. C Bryan Stork Florida State 6-4 315
R5 176. WR Cody Hoffman BYU 6-4 223
R6 197. WR Devin Street Pitt 6-3 198
R7 236. TE Justin Jones East Carolina 6-8 277

Besides my pick of Pryor, it is go big or go home... I think Martin is too good to pass up at DE in R2. Bucannon is a solid addition in R3, and Smith is a smart choice being taller and better in coverages with our 2nd pick in R3. Jean-Baptiste is a freak at CB with that size, and maybe the picks 98 and 121 interchange due to this freakish size at CB. Stork is a God-send find in R5. Both Hoffman and Street are too good to pass up in R5 and R6, and Jones could turn into something special with his size in R7.

Here's to the biggest draft class ever in Green Bay.

BTW, wanted a NT in the worst way, but we can re-sign Pickett for 1 season with the sole intent to rotate him with Raji at the NT. you don't think Pickett wants back in with the signing of Peppers? Laughing I bet he'd love it. He could do one more year, but I would want him rotating with Raji, not side by side.

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#30 Posted : Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:19:35 AM(UTC)
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Thought I'd pop another one in there...

R1 21. ILB Ryan Shazier Ohio State 6-2 237
R2 53. CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste Nebraska 6-3 220
R3 85. FS Terrence Brooks Florida State 5-11 198
R3 98. SS Ahmad Dixon Baylor 6-0 212
R4 121.C Bryan Stork Florida State 6-4 315
R5 161. WR Devin Street Pitt 6-3 198
R5 176. TE Joe Don Duncan Dixie State 6-3 268
R6 197. WR Jeremy Gallon Michigan 5-7 185
R7 236. DT Beau Allen Wisconsin 6-3 325

buckeye, I like Shazier a lot with our first pick. This is one fast kid who is exceptional in both run D and in coverage - phenomenal tackler. Super, super fast. It would be interesting to see what a player like him could do alongside Hawk, another former buckeye. Something tells me that drafting this player will be a big help in the middle of our D, and he has size at 6-3 with room to grow. I think both Clinton-Dix and Pryor will be off the board by 21, and we need ILB nearly as much as S. The thing I like about Shazier over Borland and Skov is this kid has speed. The other two do not. And, he can cover the pass. The other two struggle. All three have equal instincts.

I know Stanley Jean-Baptiste is a bit of a reach in R2, but maybe not. He displays some uncanny skills to go along with exceptional size at CB, 6-3 220 and 4.61 speed. This is a kid that will fly off the board to someone, why not us? Jumping on this kid early could prove masterful.

I like bookend Safeties with our next two picks of Brooks and Dixon - both highly capable and huge upgrades over what we have currently, then hoping to land Stork. I like this kid and think he would be a great C for us. Devin Street in R5 is a super solid pick at WR - tall with speed, broke nearly all the Pitt WR records held by Antonio Bryant. This next kid, Joe Don Duncan is a piece of work. HUGE kid who knows how to block and catch equally well. Had over 1000 yds receiving last year. Gallon makes my list again as I think we would be smart to draft a backup to Cobb, and a KR. Beau Allen is a late round throw in at NT, but he could be good for us. Not sure if he will last that long.

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