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8 years ago
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/27/packers-had-players-only-meeting-apparently-over-excessive-video-games/ 

According to Cris Collinsworth.

If the locker room is in disarray, requiring players-only meetings to address lack of preparation it's not surprising that things are carrying over to the field.

If true, where are the coaches???
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nerdmann
8 years ago

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/27/packers-had-players-only-meeting-apparently-over-excessive-video-games/

According to Cris Collinsworth.

If the locker room is in disarray, requiring players-only meetings to address lack of preparation it's not surprising that things are carrying over to the field.

If true, where are the coaches???

Originally Posted by: macbob 



There is one player who is the common denominator on offense.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
yooperfan
8 years ago

If true, where are the coaches???

Originally Posted by: macbob 


Yeah, where the hell are the coaches?
Apparently not preparing their team for the real games.

DoddPower
8 years ago

There is one player who is the common denominator on offense.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Oh, OK. I guess the Packers had different starters earlier in the year?

Bench Aaron Rodgers and it will take about two even more embarrassing games for this crowd to be eating crow. The Packers have absolutely NO chance of going anywhere with Scott Tolzien. Things would only get worse overall, but there is a small chance the play calling might get better because the coaches know Tolzien couldn't save as many plays.

Rodgers needs to be better, but he is not the main problem. The only way he needs benched for a game or so if he isn't healthy. Otherwise, the coaches need to put him in a better position to succeed and he and the other players need to execute better. A good coaching staff would fix these issues. Although to be fair, the poor receiving talent isn't helping. There's only so much a team can do with an average #2 WR and a bunch of #3 or 4 WRs and a tight end that is slower than some offensive linemen.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Oh, OK. I guess the Packers had different starters earlier in the year?

Bench Aaron Rodgers and it will take about two even more embarrassing games for this crowd to be eating crow. The Packers have absolutely NO chance of going anywhere with Scott Tolzien. Things would only get worse overall, but there is a small chance the play calling might get better because the coaches know Tolzien couldn't save as many plays.

Rodgers needs to be better, but he is not the main problem. The only way he needs benched for a game or so if he isn't healthy. Otherwise, the coaches need to put him in a better position to succeed and he and the other players need to execute better. A good coaching staff would fix these issues. Although to be fair, the poor receiving talent isn't helping. There's only so much a team can do with an average #2 WR and a bunch of #3 or 4 WRs and a tight end that is slower than some offensive linemen.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



POOR RECEIVING TALENT, POOR RECEIVING TALENT, POOR RECEIVING TALENT. The same players that got us to 6-0.

If a player isn't getting it done, then sit that player down. Unless he's beyond accountability, like Aaron Rodgers. Just let that guy scapegoat his second year player who's already so terrified of making a mistake that he clenches down everytime the ball comes at him.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
8 years ago

POOR RECEIVING TALENT, POOR RECEIVING TALENT, POOR RECEIVING TALENT. The same players that got us to 6-0.

If a player isn't getting it done, then sit that player down. Unless he's beyond accountability, like Aaron Rodgers. Just let that guy scapegoat his second year player who's already so terrified of making a mistake that he clenches down everytime the ball comes at him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Aaron Rodgers has MORE than proved he can get it done with multiple different players. This current group of receivers haven't proved that they can get it done, at least without Jordy Nelson around. Cobb has never been a #1 WR and he's proved how far he is away from being one this season. Adams has never proved himself as a #2 WR and he's proving he isn't. Richard Rodgers has never proved himself to be a good tight end, and he's proving he isn't. James Jones has proved to be a decent WR but he's past his prime but is still earning his minimal salary. Janis and Abby have obviously proved nothing. Aaron Rodgers has proven himself. Something is not right, but Aaron undoubtedly has the talent to be better. The Packers at least have a CHANCE to win with Aaron Rodgers. With Scott Tolzien, they have no chance beyond maybe one game, much like the Cowboys without Romo.

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Cheesey
8 years ago
Someone on the team should stand up before the media and apologize for the lousy play and call some players out that are not getting it done.
I'm getting tired of the "we will get it fixed" line after each loss.
Maybe if they WOULD fix it, it would mean something.
I want to see Mike McCarthy at s press conference call his team out, get P#%^ed off and do some screaming.
Show some emotion! Let the team know that enough is enough! Get off your lazy butts and perform on the field, or you will sit on the bench! And MAYBE even lose your job.
Someone needs to light a fire under their rear ends, before they lose this entire season.
Which a loss at Detroit will probably do.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Aaron Rodgers has MORE than proved he can get it done with multiple different players. This current group of receivers haven't proved that they can get it done, at least without Jordy Nelson around. Cobb has never been a #1 WR and he's proved how far he is away from being one this season. Adams has never proved himself as a #2 WR and he's proving he isn't. Richard Rodgers has never proved himself to be a good tight end, and he's proving he isn't. James Jones has proved to be a decent WR but he's past his prime but is still earning his minimal salary. Janis and Abby have obviously proved nothing. Aaron Rodgers has proven himself. Something is not right, but Aaron undoubtedly has the talent to be better. The Packers at least have a CHANCE to win with Aaron Rodgers. With Scott Tolzien, they have no chance beyond maybe one game, much like the Cowboys without Romo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I'd rather show the guys that there is accountabilty, than allow him to scapegoat the young players who are already pressing too much due to the criticism.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
8 years ago

I'd rather show the guys that there is accountabilty, than allow him to scapegoat the young players who are already pressing too much due to the criticism.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Rodgers has admitted MULTIPLE times he needs to play better and he admitted he has been scared at times. He's taken his share of the blame. Adams does need to play better, that's a fact. I don't see anyone being a scapegoat.

But yes, more accountability would be a nice thing with this coaching staff. The organization is loyal to a fault.
musccy
8 years ago
I don't get this lack of accountability crap.

If you're waiting for a coach or player on a responsible, well managed organization to publicly ridicule a fellow teammate/coach, stop wasting your time and go searching for some purple unicorns instead. They won't nor should they.

I'm shocked with how transparent Mike McCarthy was with Davante and Lacy's ball control the last two press conferences. You want accountability? What happened to Hawk's salary and where is he now? Did Lacy get benched in the last 3 weeks? Twice in fact, including after his fumble. Why isn't JJ in on pass plays? Read between the lines, he can't figure out how to run a trustworthy route.
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