nerdmann
8 years ago

Free plays: How Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' offense make defenses pay

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Man this shit is AWESOME.

First of all, Aaron has deadly accuracy down the field. Giving him a free play is like conceding points.

Second, it slows down the pass rush, which helps both of our tackles. Frankly they're both weak, so they can use all the help they can get. If the D is trying to get a jump, BAM! Free play. If they hang back and wait for the snap, Aaron's running the play clock, reading their D and adjusting.

They study film to see if teams run or jog off the field between plays, guaranteed.
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texaspackerbacker
8 years ago
Yeah, this stuff is helpful, and it seems like the Packers exploit it better than anybody else. I just hope that come next off-season or even sooner if it is just a matter of policy and not rules, that they don't decide to change things. What would we all be saying if this was being done TO us instead of BY us? It ain't fair; The whistle should blow and stop the play. To be clear, that's not my position, but as ol' Bob McGinn would say, "others are saying ......"
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
Now that they have been so successful getting players to jump, they need to take advantage of that in other ways. As Defenses are ready for the hard count and concentrating on not jumping use the opportunity by snapping the ball instead and watch the Oline dominate opening holes for Lacy and Starks. Hit them with that a few times and they will be ready to be hard counted again.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Yeah, this stuff is helpful, and it seems like the Packers exploit it better than anybody else. I just hope that come next off-season or even sooner if it is just a matter of policy and not rules, that they don't decide to change things. What would we all be saying if this was being done TO us instead of BY us? It ain't fair; The whistle should blow and stop the play. To be clear, that's not my position, but as ol' Bob McGinn would say, "others are saying ......"

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



If the play doesn't get blown dead it is the defenders fault IMO. My HS coach told us, if you jump make sure you hit somebody. These guys jump and stop and backup where if they kept going and either had a free path to the QB or make contact with the Oline, the play would be flagged dead. Otherwise the play is not stopped.
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luigis
8 years ago
I have a strange concern about these free plays: Every single time we have a free play and Rodgers throws a long "risky" pass it is caught for a big gain. So I wonder why don't we throw those "risky" passes more often in non-free plays.

I know Aaron is allergic to ints but I wonder how many more yards would we get in average at the price of for a couple of ints.

Of course all this doesn't matter if the other team is pathetic as were the Chiefs (out of character) or Bears.

Luis
olds70supreme
8 years ago

I have a strange concern about these free plays: Every single time we have a free play and Rodgers throws a long "risky" pass it is caught for a big gain. So I wonder why don't we throw those "risky" passes more often in non-free plays.

I know Aaron is allergic to ints but I wonder how many more yards would we get in average at the price of for a couple of ints.

Of course all this doesn't matter if the other team is pathetic as were the Chiefs (out of character) or Bears



My take: The risky plays are more successful on these broken plays because the defense reacts slowly when the ball is snapped, maybe because they think the play is going to be whistled dead. This means the pass rush sucks giving Rodgers more time to look for opportunities, and more time that the opposing team DB's (who also may have reacted slowly) have to cover the receivers. Normal plays aren't like that, you could try to go deep all you want but the pass rush and dbs are going to be a lot better. Also, keep in mind that the penalty for going for it all during non-busted plays isn't just turnover (although that is bad), it is also the loss of down that even an incomplete pass will cost for the risky play.

All that being said, I'm not sure we don't already have a significant number of big plays, only some of which are attributed to the free plays.
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civic
8 years ago
Green Bay had another quarterback who was pretty good at getting free plays and taking shots down the field.
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DakotaT
8 years ago
Rodgers doesn't throw jump balls which is why he has a 4:1 interception ratio, the greatest in the history of NFL quarterbacking.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Rodgers doesn't throw jump balls which is why he has a 4:1 interception ratio, the greatest in the history of NFL quarterbacking.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



He knows James Jones is gonna come down with it. JJ hasn't been open on any of those TDs, as I recall.
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texaspackerbacker
8 years ago

If the play doesn't get blown dead it is the defenders fault IMO. My HS coach told us, if you jump make sure you hit somebody. These guys jump and stop and backup where if they kept going and either had a free path to the QB or make contact with the Oline, the play would be flagged dead. Otherwise the play is not stopped.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



All True - I just hope they don't change the rules. They didn't used to blow it dead on false starts; It's not much of a stretch for the rules committee to do the same on the D jumping.

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