Guess who is the highest rated Packers OLB· Page 2

beast
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9 years ago

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a pass rush specialist. Especially on a team like the Packers when they are very often going to be playing with a league.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Just to clarify, I didn't say there was anything wrong with a pass rush specialist... just noting that the "highest rated" OLB has been on the field the 4th most... either he's been injured, or the coaches don't see him as the "highest rated" or they struggle at getting the "highest rated" OLB on the field (which would imply maybe they're not doing their job).

Coming after the Miami game...

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

Which implies he's good and they're failing to getting him on the field more...?

Cheesey
Preferred Member

9 years ago

#12

Yeah when you keep Perry off the field most of the game, he gets better ....

Originally Posted by: beast

So.....if we keep him out the entire game, he will be a future HOF'er!😆 [grin1]

Mucky Tundra
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9 years ago

#13

Which implies he's good and they're failing to getting him on the field more...?

Originally Posted by: beast

I would say yes

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steveishere
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9 years ago

#14

Without worrying too much over snap counts all the times I've watched Perry when he's out there he's making plays. I also don't see him out there making any big mistakes. I think if someone has earned more snaps it's Perry. The coaches started Brad Jones over Lattimore and never even really gave Lattimore a shot to win the starting job in the offseason even though he clearly looks like the better player. It doesn't mean they are dumbasses or that Perry is way worse than the OLBs who have been ahead of him it just means that in his limited time Perry has shown that he can play and should probably see more time on the field in the future. Something to also keep in mind with Neals snaps is those aren't all OLB snaps, he plays a lot on the line.

I would attribute Perry being the "highest rated" to him coming in fresh a lot and not having negative plays since the grades are cumulative. One thing you cannot tell me though is Perry hasn't made an impact when he's been on the field this year. He's probably one of the most violent looking players on our defense when he hits someone and he's been getting after the QB.

beast
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9 years ago

#15

I would say yes

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

I think if someone has earned more snaps it's Perry. The coaches started Brad Jones over Lattimore and never even really gave Lattimore a shot to win the starting job in the offseason even though he clearly looks like the better player.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

It doesn't mean they are dumbasses or that Perry is way worse than the OLBs who have been ahead of him it just means that in his limited time Perry has shown that he can play and should probably see more time on the field in the future.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Very balanced way to look at it... but if Perry has been doing much better than his snap count subject then maybe they are dumbasses... after all it was nothing but Brad Jones, it had to be Brad Jones.... and now it's anybody but Brad Jones...

And we might be able to say the same about Bostick.

They might be the physical most athletic guys at their positions, but playing the worst. Maybe they're in their own head, maybe the coaches can't coach them up and we're keeping them? Maybe we should keep them if they can get out of their own heads or a coach could pull them out.

But it was almost nothing but them and now it's the complete reverse of that for what ever reason.

One thing you cannot tell me though is Perry hasn't made an impact when he's been on the field this year. He's probably one of the most violent looking players on our defense when he hits someone and he's been getting after the QB.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Yet you also suggest the coaches aren't dumbasses for not getting him on the field more? Sounds like he should be getting in the rotation a lot more [grin1]

Then again maybe Winston Moss being to tough on him is making him a bench guy is why he's playing better? That or just another year of growth?

dfosterf
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

As USUAL.. Dodd comes in with a brilliant, yet simple observation that makes everything so right in the world.

I love reading PackersHome.

It gets me all fired up for when my Raiders will win a game in the future.

Well stated DoddPower.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride

They will win a game in the future! 😆

beast
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9 years ago

#17

They will win a game in the future! 😆

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

But when will they win a game this season? 🤷

I'm hoping it's this week against the Browns others wise, which their schedule they might be the second team that goes 0-16 (unless someone gives them a late season game they're not really fighting to win). I hate seeing a team go 0-16.

Raiders schdule
Week 8: @ Browns
Week 9: @ Seahawks
Week 10: Broncos
Week 11: @ Chargers
Week 12: Chiefs
Week 13: @ Rams
Week 14: 49ers
Week 15: @ Chiefs
Week 16: Bills
Week 17: @ Broncos

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

If the coaches are sucking then why haven't we called them on it? Heck all there LBers call revolve around one person... Winston Moss... if he's doing such a bad job of getting the best players on the field then why haven't we heard calls for him to be fired lately? ... come on people... wake up... lets getting started... FireWinstonMoss.COM ... let's get it a move on it [rockon] 😆 jk

Very balanced way to look at it... but if Perry has been doing much better than his snap count subject then maybe they are dumbasses... after all it was nothing but Brad Jones, it had to be Brad Jones.... and now it's anybody but Brad Jones...

And we might be able to say the same about Bostick.

They might be the physical most athletic guys at their positions, but playing the worst. Maybe they're in their own head, maybe the coaches can't coach them up and we're keeping them? Maybe we should keep them if they can get out of their own heads or a coach could pull them out.

But it was almost nothing but them and now it's the complete reverse of that for what ever reason.

Yet you also suggest the coaches aren't dumbasses for not getting him on the field more? Sounds like he should be getting in the rotation a lot more [grin1]

Then again maybe Winston Moss being to tough on him is making him a bench guy is why he's playing better? That or just another year of growth?

Originally Posted by: beast

The coaches aren't sucking. It's a different situation when you have a back up playing well and a starter who isn't than when a back up is playing well and 2 starters who are. It's also a different situation when the 2 starters are Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers who are proven respected vets that don't like coming off the field. I would bet that Perry does see more snaps as the season progresses though. Like I said, using my eyes when Perry is on the field he makes a lot of plays. Are you telling me you see something different? It seems like you are saying I should ignore my eyes telling me that Perry played a good game against Carolina because he only played 25 snaps, that seems like a ridiculous idea to me.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

9 years ago

#19

I've always liked Perry but I think he just doesn't fit our D. Wish we could trade him to a 4-3 team where he could flourish as a DE and we could pick up good/outstanding ILB,OLB,or DE directly or with a draft pick. Since he had to learn a new position and has had limited PT maybe he can still breakout if there's no trade. At least that is my hope.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

beast
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9 years ago

#20

Are you telling me you see something different? It seems like you are saying I should ignore my eyes telling me that Perry played a good game against Carolina because he only played 25 snaps, that seems like a ridiculous idea to me.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

No, not telling you or saying that to you at all... I'm saying if Perry is playing so much better than the starters he should be getting more time.... and if fans are figuring this out before the coaches are reacting to it, then maybe that says something about the coaches... and same with Brad Jones vs Lattimore/Barrington.

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