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    uffda udfa
    9 years ago
    Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

    Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.

    Bradford is terrible but we're so bad at ILB I guess I can stomach him sticking.

    We kept all 9 draftees.
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    Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


    steveishere
    9 years ago
    I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

    I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

    I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh
    DarkaneRules
    9 years ago

    I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

    I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

    I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh

    Originally Posted by: steveishere 



    I guess your right. I just saw Rolle make more plays. Maybe in between those plays he was having more breakdowns than I thought he was because I was tending to watching the line play more.
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    steveishere
    9 years ago

    I guess your right. I just saw Rolle make more plays. Maybe in between those plays he was having more breakdowns than I thought he was because I was tending to watching the line play more.

    Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



    He did make more plays but Rolle actually allowed 9 catches in preseason and Goodson 5 (1 less game). I liked Rolle and he looked solid all around and a good tackler but I just think Goodson is more athletic and probably has better potential in coverage.

    When it comes down to it though unless some catastrophe happens neither of these guys will probably see any meaningful snap in coverage and would be a gameday inactive so you have to take the guy you think has the higher potential unless one just completely shits the bed and Goodson had some breakdowns but he also showed some solid skills.
    nerdmann
    9 years ago

    I thought they might keep Goodson over Rolle. Rolle is nothing special and probably maxed out on his potential, Goodson is a better prospect. At #6CB you keep the guy you think can be better.

    I get keeping Bradford too, it's not his fault they made him play out of position for 3 weeks. We've got enough depth at ILB that he probably won't have to play this year.

    I don't feel like we'll really miss anyone we let go besides Rolle and Banjo and even both of those guys are just... meh

    Originally Posted by: steveishere 



    Bulk Rolle up and move him to S.

    Bradford is one of those guys at ILB who can cover. If Palmer wasn't injured they'd probly have kept him over Bradford.
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    greengold
    9 years ago

    Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

    Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.

    Bradford is terrible but we're so bad at ILB I guess I can stomach him sticking.

    We kept all 9 draftees.

    Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



    7 draft picks made the 53 but who's counting?

    By your accounting we kept 4 UDFA from this year as well. (Joe Thomas, Raijon Neal, Elliot, Pennel)

    Neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game. Rolle has been cut by three teams and cleared waivers twice I believe.

    beast
    9 years ago

    Those who would say draft status doesn't matter should consider we kept Carl Bradford and Demetri Goodson. Are you kidding me?

    Jumal Rolle got kicked in the nuts on this one.

    Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



    I'm with you with Bradford (though he looked surprisingly good at ILB after being MIA at OLB)...

    But disagree with the Goodson / Rolle...

    If Rolle got hit in the nuts it's own fault... yes he made plays but he also gave them up... Rolle was like former Packers Safety Aaron Rouse.... Rouse made a lot of big plays (which excited fans) but he also gave a lot of them up to the offenses (which ticked off the coaches). Same with Rolle...

    In the last preseason game Rolle had what should of been an INT (if it didn't get called back), but he also gave up what could of been a TD if not for an error by the WRs (which he didn't see as his back was towards him) and on a short catch and run he COMPLETELY whiffed on a tackle... Rolle played the second half of that game like he had a spot wrapped up...which he didn't.

    Compare that to Goodson coverage on James Jones where Jones (a good route running vet beats him) but he didn't quit... he tried to knock the ball out and take Jones to the ground... and in the end no touch down because he knocked the ball out for a second and knocked Jones out of bounds in that second.


    Is Goodson better than Rolle RIGHT NOW... no he's not... but it's not all about right now... Goodson also showed potential and his potential (if he grows) ceiling is higher than Rolle's potential...



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    uffda udfa
    9 years ago

    7 draft picks made the 53 but who's counting?

    By your accounting we kept 4 UDFA from this year as well. (Joe Thomas, Raijon Neal, Elliot, Pennel)

    Neither Goodson or Rolle has ever played in a real NFL game. Rolle has been cut by three teams and cleared waivers twice I believe.

    Originally Posted by: greengold 



    Who's counting? Me. We kept all 9 draftees... Thornton and Abbrederis are still with us...they were not waived/injured. They were IR'ed.

    Yes, we kept 4 UDFA's by my accounting which is the correct type of accounting... none of those 4 on your list were waived/injured.

    Jarrett Boykin was cut by the Jaguars and he's the greatest thing since sliced bread here. So, what is the point of pointing out Rolle has been cut? Go look at Cullen Jenkins road to the NFL. I'd say without that guy we don't win it in 2010. We haven't been close to getting back after he left.

    I like all the UDFA's that we kept IR or not. Lots of promise in that group. I'd argue there is almost as much promise in the UDFA group than the draftee group. That is good and bad.




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    Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


    nerdmann
    9 years ago
    We need a NT. We don't have a starter there.

    We also need a T. We're set with starters, but we don't have depth.

    This is the 53 for now, but there could still be some turnover on the bottom of the roster.
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