DoddPower
9 years ago

The above 16 players are the UDFA signed in 2012. Recognize many names? Those are Lyerla's peers. Not a projected starter for the Packers in the group. Vast majority did not survive camp in 2012. May be only 1 left after camp this year. Lyerla has a huge hill to climb.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I don't think any reasonable person is saying that Lyerla doesn't have a "huge hill" to climb. That's pretty obvious. The general consensus I see is that he posses the talent to be a starting-caliber NFL tight end, but it's unknown if he can actually make that happen. His natural ability is greater than the typical UDFA. But that doesn't mean he'll ever make anything of said talent. That's mostly up to him.
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QCHuskerFan
9 years ago

Would the same words not be used for Vontaze Burfict? He is a guy nobody took a flyer on as well and has gone to the Pro Bowl and led the team in tackles. Some guys have great talent and just need some maturing and mentoring.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



All right. I give up. Order the statue for Canton. COLT LYERLA WILL BE THE FIRST EVER NFL PLAYER TO BE ELECTED TO THE HALL OF FAME IN EVERY POSITION ON THE FIELD. There is every right to assume that he will be the greatest player in the history of the game. He will set every scoring record, passing record, receiving record and rushing record. Except Brett Favre's Int record, since Colt will never throw an Int. That is clearly below him.

In fact, Ted Thompson will probably cut ARod so that there is room for Colt on the roster. He's such a perfect NFL specimen that he really doesn't need talent throwing him the ball. He will just use his awesome talent to catch Josh Sitton's passes.
TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

All right. I give up. Order the statue for Canton. COLT LYERLA WILL BE THE FIRST EVER NFL PLAYER TO BE ELECTED TO THE HALL OF FAME IN EVERY POSITION ON THE FIELD. There is every right to assume that he will be the greatest player in the history of the game. He will set every scoring record, passing record, receiving record and rushing record. Except Brett Favre's Int record, since Colt will never throw an Int. That is clearly below him.

In fact, Ted Thompson will probably cut ARod so that there is room for Colt on the roster. He's such a perfect NFL specimen that he really doesn't need talent throwing him the ball. He will just use his awesome talent to catch Josh Sitton's passes.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



There are people who were thought highly of that were not drafted. Votaze Burfict was one and Colt was another player that people see the talent, but are afraid of immaturity and whether he is worth the trouble. The hyperbole is unnecessary if you don't like the guy say so, but his talent level is far above the other undrafted free agents in my opinion. People discussed Burfict after the draft, people are now discussing Colt as somebody with the talent, but with baggage.

uffda udfa
9 years ago

All right. I give up. Order the statue for Canton. COLT LYERLA WILL BE THE FIRST EVER NFL PLAYER TO BE ELECTED TO THE HALL OF FAME IN EVERY POSITION ON THE FIELD. There is every right to assume that he will be the greatest player in the history of the game. He will set every scoring record, passing record, receiving record and rushing record. Except Brett Favre's Int record, since Colt will never throw an Int. That is clearly below him.

In fact, Ted Thompson will probably cut ARod so that there is room for Colt on the roster. He's such a perfect NFL specimen that he really doesn't need talent throwing him the ball. He will just use his awesome talent to catch Josh Sitton's passes.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Show me another UDFA prospect who came via tryout that an NFL scout was comparing to Rob Gronkowski when he was a FRESHMAN. That's a pretty rare bird right there.

p2w is not in this thread so nobody said he's headed to HOF. I'm not even certain he'll be carried on the 53. I think if he came via tryout and unless he explodes in preseason we should be able to easily stash him on the PS. Obviously, if he's outstanding in pre-season he'll make this team easily. Our TE position is a black hole so there's all kinds of opportunity for him.

The other fear I have for him is he may light it up in preseason but there may be enough red flags we see off the field to not be able to trust him lasting through the season without doing something stupid. We know Richard Rodgers is a lock. I think most assume the experienced Quarless is a lock, minus injury. Bostick has a lot invested in him as far as time. Taylor, Stoneburner, Perillo or Lyerla? I'll take Colt. I think he could do multiple things well as QC unwittingly pointed out.

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Dexter_Sinister
9 years ago

My comment was not about Lyerla but the draft. If the Packers drafted 9 players, and not one of them was more talented than Lyerla, there is a problem. If after 5 months of film study, combine measurements, individual workouts, and they can't identify and draft talent, there is a problem. Talent is easy to identify. Just use a stopwatch, scale and tape. Football aptitude, desire, heart are much harder.

Let's approach it from a different standpoint. If Lyerla is that physically talented, think how much of a zero he must be in those other areas in order to not be drafted by 32 teams.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I think it has been proven that the Packers can find talent and ability.

If you have what you think is the best player in the draft and you know you can get him as a 7th rounder, regardless of how good you think he is, the most responsible thing to do would be to take him in the 7th round.

Christian Ponder was a 12th overall pick and Rodges was a 24th. Saying draft stats tells you how good a player is, it really ridiculous.
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beast
9 years ago

Show me another UDFA prospect who came via tryout that an NFL scout was comparing to Rob Gronkowski when he was a FRESHMAN. That's a pretty rare bird right there.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I strongly disagree... as when they're freshmen a LOT of stupid comparison are made (am NO! I'm not saying this one is stupid)... but doing research on player that are in the draft, I've found things about such and such player and comparing to some NFL al-star saying they have the potential to be this (even when it's CLEAR from an unbiased standpoint that don't eve have a quarter of the physical ability)... and let me be clear Lyerla to Gronkowski might be more of the more sane one of those I've heard.

But I know a number of freshmen QB's potential were compared to Favre (and some of them had rather weak arms, so I didn't see I in the slightest)... ... WRs to Randy Moss and etc


I think the only reason we're still hearing about this one, is because physically it's still possible... where other ones disappear when people wake up... physically he has a TON of potential... but will he finally live up to the potential or not? We just have to wait and see...
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

I strongly disagree... as when they're freshmen a LOT of stupid comparison are made (am NO! I'm not saying this one is stupid)... but doing research on player that are in the draft, I've found things about such and such player and comparing to some NFL al-star saying they have the potential to be this (even when it's CLEAR from an unbiased standpoint that don't eve have a quarter of the physical ability)... and let me be clear Lyerla to Gronkowski might be more of the more sane one of those I've heard.

But I know a number of freshmen QB's potential were compared to Favre (and some of them had rather weak arms, so I didn't see I in the slightest)... ... WRs to Randy Moss and etc


I think the only reason we're still hearing about this one, is because physically it's still possible... where other ones disappear when people wake up... physically he has a TON of potential... but will he finally live up to the potential or not? We just have to wait and see...

Originally Posted by: beast 



We're talking about NFL scouts...not some unknown draftnik making the Gronkowski comparison. Gronkowski is a special talent. Rare. I think to compare Lyerla to him from an NFL scouts perspective says an awful lot about the talent he possesses. The scout could've just said he thought highly of him... to compare him to a TD machine that's very difficult to tackle was quite high praise. I'm not sure I understood it, though, because one of Gronk's biggest strengths is his height. Colt doesn't possess that. From that I can only surmise that Colt's athleticism and moreso his toughness is why the comparison was made. As was noted he was one heckuva running back at one time. The comparison does something for me and I'm pretty skeptical and cynical.

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nerdmann
9 years ago
Then you've got guys like Tebow who were taken in the first round. lol

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mi_keys
9 years ago

Christian Ponder was a 12th overall pick and Rodges was a 24th. Saying draft stats tells you how good a player is, it really ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



In all fairness, most draft sites did have Ponder going to the Vikings... in the second round.
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Dexter_Sinister
9 years ago

In all fairness, most draft sites did have Ponder going to the Vikings... in the second round.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



He was a stretch in the 2nd round and only because he was a need pick. Not because that is where he was valued. He is a glorified backup QB who was forced into a starting role by being picked 2 -3 rounds early.
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