10 years ago
EVERY team has its holes this year. The parity is serious this season. Coincidence? Except many of the teams still have the luxury to mask their holes more than the Packers. We lost that luxury when we suffered some very important injuries.

I watched Alex Smith tear apart that Denver defense. I watched that Denver offense tear apart the "best" defense in the NFL. I watched the lowly Texans hang up 31 with the chance to win against one of the top teams in the league. Guess what? This all happened in one weekend of football.


If you compare this Packers team with Rodgers to all the other teams in the NFL, we aren't far behind.


We have been spoiled these past few years with never having to experience anything like this. Enjoy it because you have to experience the tough times in order to get true joy and appreciation when the great moments come around.







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EVERY team has its holes this year. The parity is serious this season. Coincidence? Except many of the teams still have the luxury to mask their holes more than the Packers. We lost that luxury when we suffered some very important injuries.

I watched Alex Smith tear apart that Denver defense. I watched that Denver offense tear apart the "best" defense in the NFL. I watched the lowly Texans hang up 31 with the chance to win against one of the top teams in the league. Guess what? This all happened in one weekend of football.


If you compare this Packers team with Rodgers to all the other teams in the NFL, we aren't far behind.


We have been spoiled these past few years with never having to experience anything like this. Enjoy it because you have to experience the tough times in order to get true joy and appreciation when the great moments come around.




Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 




Cheese, I and many others have experienced this before. I lived through the 70'a and 80's mediocrity. I am entitled to say I don't want to go back again and that I expect more from this organization than the Jags front office. Do you realize Jacksonville is playing better than GB right now? Inexcusable.

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steveishere
10 years ago
Packer nation goes off the deep end at any sign of adversity. Probably one of the most spoiled and entitled fanbases in sports. Fans who cant appreciate a good season because they almost never have to see a bad season. Obviousy its not every fan but its alot of them.
10 years ago

Cheese, I and many others have experienced this before. I lived through the 70'a and 80's mediocrity. I am entitled to say I don't want to go back again and that I expect more from this organization than the Jags front office. Do you realize Jacksonville is playing better than GB right now? Inexcusable.

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Jacksonville is playing better than many other teams right now.

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10 years ago

I understand and agree with most of your post.

There is only the here and now. The only good thing that the prior championships are good for and when we laugh at the vikie fans or others like them. They don't count for what we are watching this week.

It is fine to give the GM and HC a "pass" after winning a SB but that time has expired even when we factor in the injury situation. After all 2010 shows us that injuries are not an excuse. Fans can tolerate some inept play when they see the team is improving and simply experiencing some growing pains.

This team is not showing improvement.

There are 3rd- 4th year players that have regressed. That is unexceptionable.
Not having a plan for an NFL caliber backup QB is unacceptable. I know I mentioned it before but it takes time to develop a QB. They can't trot someone new out there every other week and expect to have success. If someone as stupid about football as I am knows this why do they act like it is something unheard of?
The woes on the OL have been there for years. That is unacceptable.
The porous secondary and weak LB has been there for years as well. That is not acceptable.
The terrible RB group only improved this year after years of ignoring the problem.
With all the TE they have had it has been an issue. If JerMike was going well we were ok but if he was not there was no one else to step in and make a difference. That is not acceptable.

I could go on but it has all been said before. There are real issues that having Aaron at QB has covered up this team has many more holes than people like to believe are there starting with the coaching staff. that is no acceptable.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Thank you. That's just about exactly what I've been saying ........ and how in the eyes of some, is the GM not to blame for that festering mess which was covered up by the unmatched quality of Aaron Rodgers?


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10 years ago

Cheese, I and many others have experienced this before. I lived through the 70'a and 80's mediocrity. I am entitled to say I don't want to go back again and that I expect more from this organization than the Jags front office. Do you realize Jacksonville is playing better than GB right now? Inexcusable.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I lived through it as well.. and I can look at this roster, staff and front office without a blink and know we are light years away from Braatz, Gregg, Starr and the likes.

It is disappointing to see how poorly they have played... no doubt, but at what point do you expect the attrition to affect this club.. both in talent and in confidence.

The issues I rattled off were there the year we went 15-1, just 2 seasons ago.. yet no one wanted to talk about a flawed football team going into the playoffs. But now.. heads must roll.

I expect this team to be better.. but some of the depths of comments around are way over the top. Questioning Rodgers toughness... "Favre would have played". Ted is a terrible GM.. hasn't given us the talent.. yet a ton of our castoffs are playing for other teams right now.

On the coaching staff.. I have less of a problem with the fire chants.. we have seen the same struggles for some time now.

I am not saying anyone is wrong for feeling the way they do.. but there is so much over the top knee jerk drama filled posts and statements being thrown around.. it makes it tough to hold a conversation with some.

That is all.. carry on.

Can't even fathom what chat rooms look like right now.. didn't like the noise when we were winning.
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cherry picking:

I lived through it as well..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I know I was thinking about you when I posted.


The issues I rattled off were there the year we went 15-1, just 2 seasons ago.. yet no one wanted to talk about a flawed football team going into the playoffs. But now.. heads must roll.



can't say no one. People were upset over they way GB was winning and knew there would be problems if things weren't correct. They weren't.


I expect this team to be better.. but some of the depths of comments around are way over the top.



agreed. I would never question AR's toughness. A broken bone is a broken bone. Only time will heal it.


Can't even fathom what chat rooms look like right now.. didn't like the noise when we were winning.



I have trouble going to chat too. Even if there was not complaints, I can't keep up.


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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

Packer nation goes off the deep end at any sign of adversity. Probably one of the most spoiled and entitled fanbases in sports. Fans who cant appreciate a good season because they almost never have to see a bad season. Obviousy its not every fan but its alot of them.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Hey Hey Hey.... 😳 don't group us all together!!!! 😆

This season has turned to the Dark Side in the past few weeks, sorry if I can't join The Doom and Gloom club, but as bad as it has been, there are obvious reasons, so what are you gonna do?

The only light I see at the end of the tunnel this year is knowing That The Lions are still The Lions and The Bears are still The Bears.

If by some miracle The Packers can right the ship starting this week, I can see them winning The North at Chicago in 4 weeks.

If they don't, then changes will be made, determined by The Packer organization, and next year will be here real soon.

Gotta let the season play out!!!!!

Carry On!!!




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Jacksonville is playing better than many other teams right now.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 



still unacceptable. Let other franchises and their fans say it is ok.
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Packer nation goes off the deep end at any sign of adversity. Probably one of the most spoiled and entitled fanbases in sports. Fans who cant appreciate a good season because they almost never have to see a bad season. Obviousy its not every fan but its alot of them.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I guess it wrong to look at a team that has not won since October and not only lost but played horrible in losing and say it is ok because we won 3 years ago. I guess it is wrong to watch players who don't put forth an effort that is worthy of their position of being in the NFL and calling them out.

What frustrates me is complacency. Many have seen the signs of trouble and ignored them because of a "We won this week" attitude. Well they are not winning now.

If there was a solid OL GB would win with back up QBs. They don't have one. If there was a solid defense scheme, a DL that actually pressures the QB, a secondary that can cover the receivers, a defense that communicates and knows their jobs, GB could win without Rodgers.

The same problems GB had 2, 3 even 4 years ago are still there. But because they won no one cared. Now people care and they are poor fans for expressing their concern with a team they have supported for years.

I guess you prefer the Chip Diller approach.




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