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Offline MintBaconDrivel  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:42:38 AM(UTC)
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Ted Thompson has made a lot of brilliant draft picks since taking over as Green Bay Packers general manager in 2005. He drafted some guy named Aaron Rodgers in the first round in 2005, Greg Jennings (current issues aside) in the second round in 2006,  Jordy Nelson in the second round in 2008 and both [...]
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Offline porky88  
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:31:01 PM(UTC)
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The jury is still out on Datone Jones.

2008 and 2009 are the two best, in my opinion.

Jordy Nelson, Josh Sitton, and Jermichael Finley all came from the '08 draft. That's a remarkable haul. Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, T.J. Lang, and Brad Jones all came from the '09 draft. That’s another remarkable haul. That's three starters from 2008 and four from 2009. I see only two definitive starters from 2012.

2013 is a promising class, but it’s still under evaluation.
Offline DoddPower  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:35:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
The jury is still out on Datone Jones.

2008 and 2009 are the two best, in my opinion.

Jordy Nelson, Josh Sitton, and Jermichael Finley all came from the '08 draft. That's a remarkable haul. Clay Matthews, B.J. Raji, T.J. Lang, and Brad Jones all came from the '09 draft. That’s another remarkable haul. That's three starters from 2008 and four from 2009. I see only two definitive starters from 2012.

2013 is a promising class, but it’s still under evaluation.


I agree that it's too early to tell, but regardless, it's looking like the Packers got nine players that have already substantially contributed and a few starters that are looking pretty damn good. I expect a couple more starters to emerge sooner rather than later (Hyde, Tretter, Jones). That's a pretty damn good draft class, even if it isn't his "best."
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:32:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
I agree that it's too early to tell, but regardless, it's looking like the Packers got nine players that have already substantially contributed and a few starters that are looking pretty damn good. I expect a couple more starters to emerge sooner rather than later (Hyde, Tretter, Jones). That's a pretty damn good draft class, even if it isn't his "best."


It's pretty hard for a guy with Ted's track record to top himself.
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Offline Dulak  
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:18:20 PM(UTC)
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hard to remember whom he drafted ...

ok so a rookie LT that is doing decent; but then again the only reason he is playing is we got what 3 starters on IR? ... Bulaga, Sherrod, errr and the big guy errr forgot his name.

Datone - errr for a 1st rounder I dont know how you rate him highly ... daniels seems to be doing better then him.

lacy ... ya ... but as a previous article pointed out; something is clicking with our Oline and the run game ... doesnt take a scientist to figure out 3 different 100 yard runners in a row earlier this season.

What about all the WRs? ...

I liked the year we drafted CM3 and raji ...



Offline Mucky Tundra  
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:30:20 PM(UTC)
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While not a block buster draft in terms of starters drafted or the usual Ted Thompson dozen draft picks, I think the 2010 draft was pretty solid in terms of getting production out of all the picks from top to bottom (when healthy as the 2010 draft is a bit snake-bitten in terms of health).
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Offline texaspackerbacker  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:31:50 PM(UTC)
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Aaron Rodgers in 2005 far surpasses all of the others by himself.

As for this year, Lacy is impressive, but length of career, etc. will have a lot to do with how much of a success he is. Other than that, I don't know - Datone Jones sure hasn't shown much, not a bust yet, but a disappointment so far. Bakhtiari is about what you would expect from a 4th rounder, decent but nothing special so far. Franklin has been a real disappointment up to now. Hyde? Pleasant surprise, but I'm not sure he has much upside. Palmer? Barrington? Maybe is about the best I can say. Did I forget anybody?

All in all, I would grade this years draft about B- up to now anyway - OK but nothing special.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:16:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
Aaron Rodgers in 2005 far surpasses all of the others by himself.

As for this year, Lacy is impressive, but length of career, etc. will have a lot to do with how much of a success he is. Other than that, I don't know - Datone Jones sure hasn't shown much, not a bust yet, but a disappointment so far. Bakhtiari is about what you would expect from a 4th rounder, decent but nothing special so far. Franklin has been a real disappointment up to now. Hyde? Pleasant surprise, but I'm not sure he has much upside. Palmer? Barrington? Maybe is about the best I can say. Did I forget anybody?

All in all, I would grade this years draft about B- up to now anyway - OK but nothing special.


Damn Texas, I had to applaud you twice tonight on football issues. Maybe that's what you should stick to, cause your judgment on world issues is just incredibly poor.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:52:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Damn Texas, I had to applaud you twice tonight on football issues. Maybe that's what you should stick to, cause your judgment on world issues is just incredibly poor.


Why's everyone so down on Datone?

Dude had a kill shot on the QB, first preseason game. RT tripped him, sprained his ankle.

Dude's gonna be fine.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:20:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Why's everyone so down on Datone?

Dude had a kill shot on the QB, first preseason game. RT tripped him, sprained his ankle.

Dude's gonna be fine.


If he's not a star in the first 9 weeks of the season, he sucks.

Daniels is a good example. He looked very average last year, but this year seems to be a different player. Some players just take some time. Nothing can be said about Datone Jones other than he needs to keep improving. At least he has made a couple of plays so far, which is better than many draft picks do in their first few games.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:30:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DoddPower Go to Quoted Post
If he's not a star in the first 9 weeks of the season, he sucks.

Daniels is a good example. He looked very average last year, but this year seems to be a different player. Some players just take some time. Nothing can be said about Datone Jones other than he needs to keep improving. At least he has made a couple of plays so far, which is better than many draft picks do in their first few games.



But...but...but... he was a first round draft pick. If not a pro bowl caliber player he should at least be in consideration right? I mean he was a first round pick after all.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:11:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Damn Texas, I had to applaud you twice tonight on football issues. Maybe that's what you should stick to, cause your judgment on world issues is just incredibly poor.


hahahaha I was thinking the same about you. I almost applauded your Mason Crosby post just because it was the first time I saw the new pic of your cute kids.

Back to this thread, Nerdman, I didn't label Datone a bust, I just said he hadn't done much yet. And I suppose it is valid to say sometimes it takes a year or so for a D Lineman to reach his peak. I'm as hopeful as anybody, and I was thoroughly happy when we drafted him, but he is what he is - so far. If you want me to give the 2013 Draft an "incomplete" instead of a B-, fine, you got it.

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#13 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 5:40:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
hahahaha I was thinking the same about you. I almost applauded your Mason Crosby post just because it was the first time I saw the new pic of your cute kids.

Back to this thread, Nerdman, I didn't label Datone a bust, I just said he hadn't done much yet. And I suppose it is valid to say sometimes it takes a year or so for a D Lineman to reach his peak. I'm as hopeful as anybody, and I was thoroughly happy when we drafted him, but he is what he is - so far. If you want me to give the 2013 Draft an "incomplete" instead of a B-, fine, you got it.



I actually panned the pick at the time. I felt he was undersized for what this D ostensibly wants to do.

But let the dude's ankle heal before we judge.
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Offline Mucky Tundra  
#14 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 5:54:05 AM(UTC)
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I don't have any evidence for this but I think Jones bulking up so fast from his draft weight (280-283 from various draft articles) to 295 when he reported to camp affected his injury recovery.
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Offline DoddPower  
#15 Posted : Friday, November 1, 2013 8:12:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I actually panned the pick at the time. I felt he was undersized for what this D ostensibly wants to do.

But let the dude's ankle heal before we judge.


The undersized thing is a joke. He's the same size as guys like Justin Smith, and several others. His size has nothing to do with his performance, that's for sure.
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