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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 1:21:41 PM(UTC)
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@packers McCarthy-

Nick Perry does not have a chance to play this week.

James Jones may have a chance this week.

Randall Cobb will be out multiple weeks.

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#2 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 1:29:55 PM(UTC)
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Uhoh, the McCarthy injury under-reporting kiss of death. I'm betting on Jones out for 4 weeks, Perry out for 8 but may be back for the postseason, Cobb's leg will need to be amputated.
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#3 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 1:53:52 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 2:54:41 PM(UTC)
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So next week we will not have Perry or Matthews?

Do we really have a choice but to basically run a 4-3 for the time being?
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 3:16:06 PM(UTC)
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Cobb fractured fibula, out 6-8 weeks: http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/227733081.html
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#6 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 3:31:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TengoJuego Go to Quoted Post
Cobb fractured fibula, out 6-8 weeks: http://www.jsonline.com/...gs/sports/227733081.html


I'll take it. Give them the conditional IR tag and bring him back for the playoffs.

It wasn't his knee!

Hope this doesn't turn out to have been worse. I take this as good news.
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#7 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 6:20:52 PM(UTC)
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We just can't catch a break. Lose our best two pass rushing outside linebackers in consecutive weeks? Are you kidding me? Along with our starting Inside Linebacker? Oh my goodness...

And you can't say that Perry got hurt because he is "injury prone". He got hurt because a fatass lineman fell on his leg. That would've hurt anybody regardless of who it was. I hate it for Perry because this could have been his chance to prove that he can be a legitimate pass rusher in the league. Which in my opinion, he's already given us a good view of that.
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#8 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:04:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
So next week we will not have Perry or Matthews?

Do we really have a choice but to basically run a 4-3 for the time being?


Packers are short at edge rushers but I'm not sure going to a 4-3 would help anything.

3-4 is 3 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 2 LB and 4 DBs

4-3 is 2 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 3 LB and 4 DBs.


So both systems have two edge rushers, so I'm not sure switching to 4-3 would help. Unless they can have more DTs play 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB... but the rookie OLBers might not be able to play 4-3 DE.


Personally I'd stay with the 3-4 because they're deep at DT and banged up at LB.

And maybe ask Datone Jones to get some reps at 3-4 OLB back-up. He moves very well, has long arms and played some LB in college his SR year as the team would move him around.

And ask the DTs to step it up and fill in for Neal and Jones on the nickel pass rush. But getting Jolly, Raji, Danieals, Wilson some more pass rush time seem like the least of all choices.
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#9 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:14:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
Packers are short at edge rushers but I'm not sure going to a 4-3 would help anything.

3-4 is 3 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 2 LB and 4 DBs

4-3 is 2 DTs, 2 edge rushers, 3 LB and 4 DBs.


So both systems have two edge rushers, so I'm not sure switching to 4-3 would help. Unless they can have more DTs play 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB... but the rookie OLBers might not be able to play 4-3 DE.


Personally I'd stay with the 3-4 because they're deep at DT and banged up at LB.

And maybe ask Datone Jones to get some reps at 3-4 OLB back-up. He moves very well, has long arms and played some LB in college his SR year as the team would move him around.

And ask the DTs to step it up and fill in for Neal and Jones on the nickel pass rush. But getting Jolly, Raji, Danieals, Wilson some more pass rush time seem like the least of all choices.


Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.
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#10 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:31:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.


We do have 4-3 personnel.
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#11 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:40:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post
Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.


Simple put the Packers probably aren't going to change their system now.

And they already basically run a 4-2 (which people call a 2-4) where the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibity.

Going to a 4-3 would just take the nickel guy off the field and put another non-edge LB on the field (Barrington?) which is a bad idea because the lack of depth at LB.

In a 4-3, I'm not sure the rookies 3-4 OLB could play 4-3 DE nor 4-3 LB. I'm also not sure we want to see Daniels or Wilson playing at 4-3 DE, though they could just as easily plug them in at nickel 4-2 which the Packers already run.

So basically the system isn't going to change.

Though we both agree it might be interesting to see some of the other pass rushing DL join Neal at edge rushing especially when in the 4 man front (which Packers already run and don't need to change to a 4-3 for).

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#12 Posted : Monday, October 14, 2013 8:41:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
We do have 4-3 personnel.


We have a 4-2 personnel, which is partly because they mostly run 4-2 (or have in the past) as they're 2-4 nickel package is basically a 4-2.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:27:15 AM(UTC)
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The drop off between Matthews and Perry is pretty big.

Matthews is a huge loss (even if the D did look awesome without him last week). Perry? I'm not so sure. Oh, it hurts to lose a starter and reduce the bodies for rotation, but IMO before his injury he was one of the weaker defensive starters. He probably has more potential yet untapped, but the "yet untapped" can be "doesn't get tapped this year or ever".

Cobb, Matthews -- these are losses of people who have proven they provide things no one else does. Perry? At this point in his career he's, well, who knows. Uninjured he might be Mike Neal quality this year; or he might be Daryn Colledge quality. Who knows?
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:04:56 AM(UTC)
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Packers still haven't won a Super Bowl since mistakenly letting Daryn Colledge sign elsewhere. Keep that in mind.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:42:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
Packers still haven't won a Super Bowl since mistakenly letting Daryn Colledge sign elsewhere. Keep that in mind.


They also haven't won a Super Bowl since Finley had an injury that put him on the IR list
and Quarless was the starter at TE.

Hey!.... that gives me an idea.... here Finley, Finley, Finley Sarcasm


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