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Offline Cheesey  
#16 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 2:29:31 PM(UTC)
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This game reminded me of our 15-1
season.
Porous defense forcing our O to have to bail
the team out.
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Offline macbob  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
We were not even close.


We were within 1 score against one of the top teams in the league.

We had lousy field position all night (some of it self-induced), we played sloppy with turnovers and penalties, and WE STILL LOST BY LESS THAN 7 POINTS.

In this game, the 49ers were better...but not much better.

Last year in the playoffs, they were a LOT better.

We eliminate our own errors and this is a win. And since this was only the first game of the season, we have time to straighten out KO returners who bring it out when they should have taken a knee, LGs who are still adjusting to playing on the left side rather than the right, etc.

It's incredibly difficult to win every game. I'd rather be peaking at the end of the season (2010) than too early in the season (2011).
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Offline nerdmann  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:06:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
We were within 1 score against one of the top teams in the league.

We had lousy field position all night (some of it self-induced), we played sloppy with turnovers and penalties, and WE STILL LOST BY LESS THAN 7 POINTS.

In this game, the 49ers were better...but not much better.

Last year in the playoffs, they were a LOT better.

We eliminate our own errors and this is a win. And since this was only the first game of the season, we have time to straighten out KO returners who bring it out when they should have taken a knee, LGs who are still adjusting to playing on the left side rather than the right, etc.

It's incredibly difficult to win every game. I'd rather be peaking at the end of the season (2010) than too early in the season (2011).


Agreed. We eliminate our errors, and there's not a team in the league that can beat us.

Unfortunately, I've been saying that for years now.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Offline steveishere  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:44:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Bullsh!t.

Woulda.

Coulda.

Shoulda.

We were not even close. Was that not a meaningful game? Sure as hell was. And, I cannot remember the last time we dominated one of those games. A meaningful game. We have another coming up on Sunday, defending our own home turf, the hallowed Lambeau Field. How have we done with that lately? Holy sh!t.

We are far, far, far from being a top 5 team in this NFL. If we keep playing like this.... the only other SF QB to launch 400+ and 3 TDs in the first game of the season was Joe Montana. I am not sure if you are realizing this, but we keep helping to set NFL records for futility.

Kaepernick had never before thrown for 300 yds... he had a record setting day with a career high 412.

We gave up 500 freaking yds. on defense. Holy F. Top dog? Are you kidding me? How?


@ Lambeau 15-1 the last 2 years, Holy shit indeed
I'd like to see the 15-20 teams you have ranked ahead of GB
Kaepernick has never before thrown for 300 yards - False
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Offline gbguy20  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:10:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steveishere Go to Quoted Post
@ Lambeau 15-1 the last 2 years, Holy sh!t indeed
I'd like to see the 15-20 teams you have ranked ahead of GB
Kaepernick has never before thrown for 300 yards - False


that was actually his first 300 yard game. it was mentioned during the broadcast and put up on a little graphic
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Offline steveishere  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:14:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
that was actually his first 300 yard game. it was mentioned during the broadcast and put up on a little graphic


He passed for 300 yards in the last game he had before the GB game and against the superbowl champions no less.
Offline texaspackerbacker  
#22 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:48:37 PM(UTC)
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If this is about those stupid "power rankings", they mean less than nothing.

The Niners beat us fair and square - well, almost. That makes them the better team by performance the first week. If the game was 61 minutes, it was ours ..... but give them one more possession after that, and who knows?

Is there anybody else better or even close to either the Niners or Packers? I don't think so.

Saying we are not even close? That's just ridiculous. Would anybody say the Niners were not even close to the top if we had the last possession and beat them?
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Offline nerdmann  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:24:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
If this is about those stupid "power rankings", they mean less than nothing.

The Niners beat us fair and square - well, almost. That makes them the better team by performance the first week. If the game was 61 minutes, it was ours ..... but give them one more possession after that, and who knows?

Is there anybody else better or even close to either the Niners or Packers? I don't think so.

Saying we are not even close? That's just ridiculous. Would anybody say the Niners were not even close to the top if we had the last possession and beat them?


You mean if we had ONE more minute in time of possession? Or let's say 30 seconds, because if you take the ball away from them, that's 30 less that they have too.
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Offline porky88  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:21:00 PM(UTC)
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I recall the 2007 Giants playing New England in the last game of that season. Nobody gave them a chance. They did lose that week, but they left the field knowing they could play with the Patriots. The same thing happened in 2011. They played the mighty Packers and it took a Mason Crosby game-winning field goal (when he actually made kicks) for the Packers to keep the undefeated streak alive. The Giants also walked away knowing they could play with Green Bay. They won both rematches en route to two Super Bowl titles.

Last year, I don't believe Green Bay ever left the field believing they could play with San Francisco. They kicked the Packers all over the field in both games. Those scores actually don't indicate how much better San Francisco was in 2012. Last week, however, I think (hope) the Packers left the field knowing they can play with the 49ers. They were winning in the fourth quarter. Their defense was matching San Francisco's physicality. For the most part, Rodgers had time to throw. There were many positives to come from this game. Yes, some awful negatives, but San Francisco is supposed to be the best the NFL offers. The Packers went to their house in week one and gave them all they had. We’ll see how the season goes, but I’m looking forward to a potential rematch this time.
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Offline play2win  
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:29:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
We were within 1 score against one of the top teams in the league.

We had lousy field position all night (some of it self-induced), we played sloppy with turnovers and penalties, and WE STILL LOST BY LESS THAN 7 POINTS.

In this game, the 49ers were better...but not much better.

Last year in the playoffs, they were a LOT better.

We eliminate our own errors and this is a win. And since this was only the first game of the season, we have time to straighten out KO returners who bring it out when they should have taken a knee, LGs who are still adjusting to playing on the left side rather than the right, etc.

It's incredibly difficult to win every game. I'd rather be peaking at the end of the season (2010) than too early in the season (2011).


From the standpoint of watching that game in real time, did it seem to you we were IN this game?

Did you get the sense that we were dominating? Did you get the sense that WE were going to WIN?

When we tied it at the half, I thought it more a freak anomaly. When we went ahead with 6 minutes left in the 4th, I got the sense there was just too much time and that they would score to take the lead.

We seemed horribly pourus against the pass and more reactionary on offense for me to think we were really in this game, with a legit chance to win. Had our D lifted and made some things happen in the 4th Quarter it all would have changed.

Looking at the game from afar, yeah, we were close. One score away. But, in that game real time, that last score looked insurmountable. So much so, you almost knew how it would play out before our own last score. It's just the way that game went.

I do agree macbob, if we are going to peak I would rather it be at the end of the season going into the playoffs.

If we can only win one game this year against SF, I'll gladly take the playoff game for the W!
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#26 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:50:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker Go to Quoted Post
If this is about those stupid "power rankings", they mean less than nothing.

The Niners beat us fair and square - well, almost. That makes them the better team by performance the first week. If the game was 61 minutes, it was ours ..... but give them one more possession after that, and who knows?

Is there anybody else better or even close to either the Niners or Packers? I don't think so.

Saying we are not even close? That's just ridiculous. Would anybody say the Niners were not even close to the top if we had the last possession and beat them?


Did you know Rodgers is 0-17 vs. .500 teams and better in 4th Quarter comebacks?

Yeesh. I don't like to make mention of this fact, but there it is. I hope Rodgers and the Packers (this stat is in no way just on Rodgers, but the entire Packers team) can change that.
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#27 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:12:30 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
From the standpoint of watching that game in real time, did it seem to you we were IN this game?

Did you get the sense that we were dominating? Did you get the sense that WE were going to WIN?

When we tied it at the half, I thought it more a freak anomaly. When we went ahead with 6 minutes left in the 4th, I got the sense there was just too much time and that they would score to take the lead.

We seemed horribly pourus against the pass and more reactionary on offense for me to think we were really in this game, with a legit chance to win. Had our D lifted and made some things happen in the 4th Quarter it all would have changed.

Looking at the game from afar, yeah, we were close. One score away. But, in that game real time, that last score looked insurmountable. So much so, you almost knew how it would play out before our own last score. It's just the way that game went.

I do agree macbob, if we are going to peak I would rather it be at the end of the season going into the playoffs.

If we can only win one game this year against SF, I'll gladly take the playoff game for the W!


They definitely "let us hang around." But we also shit ourselves, repeatedly.
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Offline sschind  
#28 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:33:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
Did you know Rodgers is 0-17 vs. .500 teams and better in 4th Quarter comebacks?

Yeesh. I don't like to make mention of this fact, but there it is. I hope Rodgers and the Packers (this stat is in no way just on Rodgers, but the entire Packers team) can change that.


Does that stat take into account games where he did get the lead in the 4th quarter only to have the defense piss it away.

I fully respect your right to have your opinion but that doesn't mean I agree with it or respect you for having it.
Offline play2win  
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:37:13 AM(UTC)
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Not sure how "top dog" it is to be ranked #7 by AP, #6 by FOX (and that's advancing one position simply because we hung with SF), #7 by ESPN, #9 by CBS... Hey! Bleacher Report has us at #5!!!

Honestly, I don't put a whole lot into that either texaspackerbacker. My gut feeling on this is Mike McCarthy is dealing with a good number of unknowns. The run game, his OL, and his secondary depth without Burnett, Hayward and House in there... He is going to have to figure out how best to play his guys, which are his best guys, and get this whole thing dialed in nice and tight after the bye week for a really nice run through the remainder of the season and into the playoffs.

That is a lot of ground to cover, and a lot can happen over these next 19 weeks or so. Hopefully we can go into the bye 2-1, with a more firm handle on what kind of team we really are, and a solid plan moving forward. Hopefully, we can get the rest of our guys healthy, and that they can stay healthy throughout.

We can be top dog again. We simply are not there yet, not by any means. Lots of proving to do.
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#30 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:39:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
Does that stat take into account games where he did get the lead in the 4th quarter only to have the defense piss it away.



Not really sure sschind... but here is the link: http://www.coldhardfootb...strength-schedule/18941/

As you mentioned, the D has the capability to piss games away with great regularity (since the 2011 KC loss), and I think this statistical listing unfairly points to the QBs. How much of it revolves around missed FGs, or blown leads by the D, or poor play calling by the HC or OC, or game mismanagement, etc? It all factors in.
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