sschind
10 years ago

Just set the line, AND KEEP THE SAME 5 GUYS AT THE SAME 5 POSITIONS!!!

I'm fine with the moves as long as they don't decide midway through the pre-seaon that it's not working and start flipping guys around.

Know who your starters are, know who your backups are.

If and when an injury occurs, plug in the backup guy, don't start flipping your starters all over.

"The Jeff Saturday" experiment last year was one of the worst moves Ted has made.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



That is a huge key to the success of an offensive line. I am hoping that Bulaga and Sitton will anchor the left side. Newhouse can nail the RT position and one of the rookies can step in and be the starting RG. Why? because then we will have Lange as our #1 backup and if 1 player gets hurt we may not have to switch 3 guys around. If Mike McCarthy says Lange can play center then he can cover both center and guard. If Sherrod can come back we will have a decent backup at LT and Barclay has shown that he can play RG. One injury, one replacement. None of this whole line shift.

Then maybe we can get the consistency that everyone agrees is the real key. Of course a year without multiple injuries would help a great deal.

steveishere
10 years ago

That is a huge key to the success of an offensive line. I am hoping that Bulaga and Sitton will anchor the left side. Newhouse can nail the RT position and one of the rookies can step in and be the starting RG. Why? because then we will have Lange as our #1 backup and if 1 player gets hurt we may not have to switch 3 guys around. If Mike McCarthy says Lange can play center then he can cover both center and guard. If Sherrod can come back we will have a decent backup at LT and Barclay has shown that he can play RG. One injury, one replacement. None of this whole line shift.

Then maybe we can get the consistency that everyone agrees is the real key. Of course a year without multiple injuries would help a great deal.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I don't really see any of the rookies beating Lang
beast
10 years ago

I think Barclay could be GREAT at OG. ... I wonder how well Lang can play Center... I do like D-Smith but I like Sitton, Lang and Barclay more... and if Lang can play Center and you can get all three of them in there at once might be very good OL.

LT: Bulaga
LG: Sitton
OC: Lang / D-Smith
RG: Barclay
RT: Newhouse / Sherrod

D-Smith would probably back-up all 3 inside spots. Sherrod or Newhouse would back-up both OT spots.

And keep the next best two or 3 OL not listed above with of course the rookie draft picks giving a little extra leeway as they're draft picks could have talent and could develop their potential... like Newhouse looked horrible his rookie training camp but showed potential and some growth and they kept him... he turned into a starter.


Of course that again depends on how good Lang is at Center.


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DakotaT
10 years ago

I think Barclay could be GREAT at OG. ... I wonder how well Lang can play Center... I do like D-Smith but I like Sitton, Lang and Barclay more... and if Lang can play Center and you can get all three of them in there at once might be very good OL.

LT: Bulaga
LG: Sitton
OC: Lang / D-Smith
RG: Barclay
RT: Newhouse / Sherrod

D-Smith would probably back-up all 3 inside spots. Sherrod or Newhouse would back-up both OT spots.

And keep the next best two or 3 OL not listed above with of course the rookie draft picks giving a little extra leeway as they're draft picks could have talent and could develop their potential... like Newhouse looked horrible his rookie training camp but showed potential and some growth and they kept him... he turned into a starter.


Of course that again depends on how good Lang is at Center.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Before we etch these guys into the starting lineup, we should probably see if the rookies can play. I remember guys like Tauscher and Timmerman stepping in day 1 and taking over, which is what I hope we have. It looks like there will be some fire lit under some asses this year in training camp. I would say only Sitton and Bulaga are guaranteed spots.

Love the take on Barclay at guard, Beast. I like when people think outside the box a little bit.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Before we etch these guys into the starting lineup, we should probably see if the rookies can play. I remember guys like Tauscher and Timmerman stepping in day 1 and taking over, which is what I hope we have. It looks like there will be some fire lit under some asses this year in training camp. I would say only Sitton and Bulaga are guaranteed spots.

Love the take on Barclay at guard, Beast. I like when people think outside the box a little bit.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Barclay and van Roten are projected as G's. Although van Roten can apparently also play C. Might even beat out EDS.
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Before we etch these guys into the starting lineup, we should probably see if the rookies can play. I remember guys like Tauscher and Timmerman stepping in day 1 and taking over, which is what I hope we have. It looks like there will be some fire lit under some asses this year in training camp. I would say only Sitton and Bulaga are guaranteed spots.

Love the take on Barclay at guard, Beast. I like when people think outside the box a little bit.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I would love to have Barclay at G. But I am a little concerned about LT. Lang and Barclay > Barclay and Newhouse.
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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

Maybe in hindsight, sure, but the Jeff Saturday signing seemed to perk up most Packers fans - link .

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Hindsight is all we can go by right now, The Packers have veteran, experienced guys at all 5 positions going into TC.

Plug these guys in wherever, but keep them together as a unit.

Learn by your mistakes.

The o-line is a 5 guy unit working together, nothing new here, it's been said a thousand times, moving guys in and out and changing positions is only going to cause problems.

SET YOUR LINE AND KEEP IT TOGETHER!!!
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sschind
10 years ago

I don't really see any of the rookies beating Lang

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



You are most likely right about that. My hope was that one of them would step up big time and we could have Lang as an extremely versatile backup at several positions.

dfosterf
10 years ago
I read the article at JSOnline, came here to see what you guys thought of it...

...thinking many would LOVE IT like I do, based on the information and history of the assorted pieces of the "puzzle" of an offensive line (especially ours).

I hate to always be contrarian, it is not my intent, but I LIKE THESE MOVES---- ALOT.

play2win
10 years ago
I do believe our OL woes last year had more to do with these two factors:

1. Jeff Saturday hitting the proverbial wall.

2. Mike McCarthy's treatment of the run in his play calling as a secondary element for much of the first half of the 2012 season.

Saturday's collapse was big trouble in the middle of our offense. We were counting on a good level of proficiency there, and it just was not there. That fall off in play adversely affected our passing and running games.

McCarthy spent a good 5 or 6 weeks treating the run as something akin to that which he did not really want to do. After the IND game, I believe public outcry forced him to run more, regardless of the results in yds gained. It worked, for a while, until we faced the Giants, where a failure to establish a sound rushing attack resulted in an onslaught of sacks, hits and hurries to Rodgers.

Yeah, we had injuries too, but we had personnel who could have done a better job had they been coached properly, and made to run block more effectively. That is my own opinion.

I believe we will be far better with both of those factors from 2012 eliminated. With running the football more of an emphasis in our scheme, I feel the pass blocking will automatically improve, and our effectiveness on offense could go through the roof.

Taking our best OL over to Rodgers' blindside is smart, given that we don't have a top veteran talent to take over LT. Competition at RT and at C will be good for our team moving forward.
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