chibiabo
15 years ago
:spiderman: Let's agree that GB has about as much chance at a play-off berth as does a snowball of surviving hell. So, now it's on to 2009 and let's try to be honest. Tauscher and Clifton both, may well be gone. So far, no adequte replacements there. Harris and Woodson may also be in that category, perhaps one replacement there. Defensive line, only two players worth another year, Kampman and Pickett. LBs above average but, no real standouts.
Now I'll float a proposal: perhaps the time is ripe for shit canning the ZBS and try out a more conventional system in the remaining games which at least would give GB a head start on 2009 and provide the coaching staffs some idea of what they have. At least GB's draft status will improve.
Yeah! I'm sorely disappointed and all the excuses are just a lot of hot air.
blank
yooperfan
15 years ago
" linebackers above average" you seriously can't be talking about Packers linebackers.
They have been terrible.
millertime
15 years ago
i've been advocating scrapping the zbs for while. we don't have the personnel.

unfortunately, we have wasted draft picks on 6-8 (not sure) offensive linemen for the ZBS.

the great thing for the Pack is that this upcoming draft has a lot of good linemen (offensive and defensive).

i don't think we'll have success w/ a power running system with our current linemen. we need new bodies.
macbob
15 years ago
I HATE the ZBS. I remember thinking back in the 90s when we were going up against Denver that they were skirting on the edge of the rules and that it would take just a slight miscalculation on the blockers part to put them on the wrong side of the rules or to hurt someone. I was very disappointed when the Packers adopted it.

Agree that the OL we've got is not suited for the power game, so don't know what the benefit/point would be to scrapping the running game and trying to install an entirely new one.
UserPostedImage
Since69
15 years ago

:spiderman: Let's agree that GB has about as much chance at a play-off berth as does a snowball of surviving hell. So, now it's on to 2009 and let's try to be honest. Tauscher and Clifton both, may well be gone. So far, no adequte replacements there. Harris and Woodson may also be in that category, perhaps one replacement there. Defensive line, only two players worth another year, Kampman and Pickett. LBs above average but, no real standouts.
Now I'll float a proposal: perhaps the time is ripe for shit canning the ZBS and try out a more conventional system in the remaining games which at least would give GB a head start on 2009 and provide the coaching staffs some idea of what they have. At least GB's draft status will improve.
Yeah! I'm sorely disappointed and all the excuses are just a lot of hot air.

"chibiabo" wrote:



We have replacements for Clifton and Tauscher - Colledge and Giacomini. I think Tauscher will be back, though. As much as I like Cliffy, he's at most a backup in 2009, I think. Wells, too. Seems to me our best line was Colledge, Barbre, Spitz, Sitton & Tauscher.

I think Harris and Woodson will both be back - certainly no reason not to want either of them. Tramon Williams has come on strong this year, but a team needs three good CBs.

Defensive line? I like Kampmann, Pickett and Jolly. We haven't seen enough of Harrell to give up on him yet. But we do need someone who can rush the passer and collapse the pocket. KGB should have been re-signed at a lower salary, at the very least.

Linebackers are individually very talented. Their less-than-stellar performances I blame on scheme and coaching.

I am completely, fully, totally on board with scrapping the zone blocking scheme. I have hated it since day one because I don't like the way we're trying to implement it, i.e. that we're trying to mix it in and use it only on certain plays. Ridiculous and futile. And every man on our defensive line would be fine without it - we've continued (for some reason) to draft maulers all along the line.
UserPostedImage
earthquake
15 years ago
Jenkins will be back!
blank
Fan Shout
dfosterf (7h) : For the record, I enjoy Beast and Mucky drafts
Zero2Cool (14h) : Haha
Mucky Tundra (15h) : No time for talking! Back to work beast!
beast (15h) : You saw only 4,201 of my mocks? 🥺 I think that means you missed more than half of them 😢
dfosterf (18h) : Does anyone know what Lambeau field improvements got put on hold? My guess would be for the 2025 draft
Zero2Cool (21h) : It's like listen, you made 4,201 mocks, no shit.
Zero2Cool (21h) : Cuz during the draft "I had them mocked there!" as if it's amazing.
Zero2Cool (21h) : They're fun to do once in awhile. It's people who think they are "content" that annoy me.
dfosterf (21h) : Against tbd
dfosterf (21h) : Answer to your question is yes, it's a Thursday, will be the Chiefs aga
dfosterf (21h) : Luckily for all concerned, I don't post them. I did one, but that was like 25 mocks ago
Zero2Cool (21h) : NFL 2024 gonna start Sept 5th isn't it???
Zero2Cool (21h) : Ugh... kids these days!
dfosterf (21h) : I'm gonna go do some more mock draft hell instead 🤪
Zero2Cool (21h) : Did we do one of those prediction threads yet for 2024 season?
dfosterf (21h) : In my city, they are playing the nimby game, in order to keep some railroad tracks vs. 2 professional sports teams and a concert venue.
dfosterf (22h) : And/Or a city council, of which I haven't seen a good one in a very long time
dfosterf (22h) : That sounds like a Mayor, not a city.
buckeyepackfan (26-Mar) : Packers halt scheduled 80mil upgrade of stadium until lease agreement talks are restarted
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : City of Green Bay puts Packers' Lambeau Field lease talks on hold
buckeyepackfan (26-Mar) : Packers 1 of 3 teams to vote no on new kickoff rule.
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Packers sign another Kicker
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Lengthy explanation at PFF if you click the link
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Kickoff rules officially changed.ngthy explan
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : lol
Cheesey (26-Mar) : 2009? No thanks! One open heart surgery is enough!
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Good for you!
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Yes. That's the one.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Is that "Lady Dugan" per chance?
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Crystal?
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Please refresh my memory
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Alan posts. Crystal back in my life. It's 2009 all over again! Lol
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : BAH GAWD! THAT'S CHEESEYS MUSIC!
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Gutekunst said early stages of Jordan Love contract being discussed.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Shouldn't be penalized cuz official screwed up
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Yeah, challenge until you are incorrect twice.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Fining them is the goal, per the people who made the rule anyway.
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Still waiting on the kickoff rule changes. Did hear yesterday that the touchback proposal will now be the 30 yard line, not the 35
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Probably speed of game issues with your proposal
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Hopefully the refs don't get in the habit of throwing flags on this
beast (25-Mar) : I think when it comes to Challenges should get two strikes, so unlimited challenges as long as they keep winning them, but 2 wrong then done
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Still subject to the fines etc
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Yes, I should have been more specific. Also, they are now saying it would be a 15 yard penalty. That makes more sense .
beast (25-Mar) : Simply fined in the week to follow
beast (25-Mar) : I agree with one NFL official, it'll probably be like some of the helmets hits, not really called by the refs on the field but simply fined
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Hip drop is not. Super confusing. Referees job is harder
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : Swivel hip drop is banned
dfosterf (25-Mar) : The hip drop enforcement will be in the form of fines, etc. Not flags
dfosterf (25-Mar) : A major foul will be enforced on the offense if there are offsetting penalties in a change of possession situation
dfosterf (25-Mar) : Teams will receive a 3rd challenge if 1 was successful. Previously, it took 2
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

19h / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

27-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

25-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

24-Mar / Around The NFL / dhazer

24-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.