mi_keys
15 years ago

If you think getting the ball at like 43 and then moving the team into a 52 yard FG is clutch, your nuts. Yeah you can say the playcalling or whatever, thats a valid point. But to bring that up as somekind of proof of anything, I'm not buying it, sorry. I think your grasping at straws.

Once again, its not a big deal, its his first year as a starter, it will probably come with time and experience. He has some problems at this point in his career, its normal, just admit them.

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



Actually, those were my points, unless I missed LT's post saying the exact same thing, specifically the play calling point. Then again, LT and I have the same viewpoint on this. Anyway, I agree with you that it is a valid criticism of him for this year however I don't think it is so cut and dry as he has flat out failed in the fourth quarter comeback or the two minute drill as I tried to point out in my last post.
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15 years ago
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15 years ago

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longtimefan
15 years ago

If you think getting the ball at like 43 and then moving the team into a 52 yard FG is clutch, your nuts. Yeah you can say the playcalling or whatever, thats a valid point. But to bring that up as somekind of proof of anything, I'm not buying it, sorry. I think your grasping at straws.

Once again, its not a big deal, its his first year as a starter, it will probably come with time and experience. He has some problems at this point in his career, its normal, just admit them.

"mi_keys" wrote:



"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



I admitted them!! you just do not read my entire posts....
Aaron Rodgers has not proven to me that he can will this team to win yet..There were games he did enough to win and some games he needed to do just more...

Show me where I said it was clutch?? Those are your words pal, not mine.

What I said was he got them in fg range..and the kicker missed it..

And dont give me shit that he didnt move them any closer, cuz Brett didnt in the Philly game and the kicker made it..
RedSoxExcel
15 years ago

If you think getting the ball at like 43 and then moving the team into a 52 yard FG is clutch, your nuts. Yeah you can say the playcalling or whatever, thats a valid point. But to bring that up as somekind of proof of anything, I'm not buying it, sorry. I think your grasping at straws.

Once again, its not a big deal, its his first year as a starter, it will probably come with time and experience. He has some problems at this point in his career, its normal, just admit them.

"longtimefan" wrote:



"mi_keys" wrote:



I admitted them!! you just do not read my entire posts....

Aaron Rodgers has not proven to me that he can will this team to win yet..There were games he did enough to win and some games he needed to do just more...

Show me where I said it was clutch?? Those are your words pal, not mine.

What I said was he got them in fg range..and the kicker missed it..

And dont give me shit that he didnt move them any closer, cuz Brett didnt in the Philly game and the kicker made it..

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



If you never said anything about clutch, where did I say that Brett "won" us hte Philly game.

I don't think ANY player wins a game in a team game like football. But yes, I think certain players give you a better chance to win than other players. I.e. I don't think Brady "won" 16 games for the Pats last year but he certainly gives you a better chance to win than Cassel.

Which is what you seem to agree with from your sig, so I don't evne know what we're arguing about. Favre didn't "win" the Eagles game just like he didn't "win" any other game. And just like Rodgers didn't "lose" us any games but he hasn't shown that "it" yet, which is what this thread was orginally about.
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longtimefan
15 years ago

If you think getting the ball at like 43 and then moving the team into a 52 yard FG is clutch, your nuts. Yeah you can say the playcalling or whatever, thats a valid point. But to bring that up as somekind of proof of anything, I'm not buying it, sorry. I think your grasping at straws.

Once again, its not a big deal, its his first year as a starter, it will probably come with time and experience. He has some problems at this point in his career, its normal, just admit them.

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



"longtimefan" wrote:



I admitted them!! you just do not read my entire posts....

Aaron Rodgers has not proven to me that he can will this team to win yet..There were games he did enough to win and some games he needed to do just more...

Show me where I said it was clutch?? Those are your words pal, not mine.

What I said was he got them in fg range..and the kicker missed it..

And dont give me shit that he didnt move them any closer, cuz Brett didnt in the Philly game and the kicker made it..

"mi_keys" wrote:



If you never said anything about clutch, where did I say that Brett "won" us hte Philly game.

I don't think ANY player wins a game in a team game like football. But yes, I think certain players give you a better chance to win than other players. I.e. I don't think Brady "won" 16 games for the Pats last year but he certainly gives you a better chance to win than Cassel.

Which is what you seem to agree with from your sig, so I don't evne know what we're arguing about. Favre didn't "win" the Eagles game just like he didn't "win" any other game. And just like Rodgers didn't "lose" us any games but he hasn't shown that "it" yet, which is what this thread was orginally about.

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



I do not knwo how many times i have to say it..


If in GENERAL terms....
Aaron Rodgers got the label of losing the Minny game cuz he didn't get them closer..

Well BF had same exact distance and had 2 or 3 incompletions and got them no closer in the Philly game..but he gets that credit?

thats double standard..thats my only point..
mi_keys
15 years ago

so I don't evne know what we're arguing about.

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



semantics?
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RedSoxExcel
15 years ago

If you think getting the ball at like 43 and then moving the team into a 52 yard FG is clutch, your nuts. Yeah you can say the playcalling or whatever, thats a valid point. But to bring that up as somekind of proof of anything, I'm not buying it, sorry. I think your grasping at straws.

Once again, its not a big deal, its his first year as a starter, it will probably come with time and experience. He has some problems at this point in his career, its normal, just admit them.

"longtimefan" wrote:



"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



I admitted them!! you just do not read my entire posts....

Aaron Rodgers has not proven to me that he can will this team to win yet..There were games he did enough to win and some games he needed to do just more...

Show me where I said it was clutch?? Those are your words pal, not mine.

What I said was he got them in fg range..and the kicker missed it..

And dont give me shit that he didnt move them any closer, cuz Brett didnt in the Philly game and the kicker made it..

"longtimefan" wrote:



If you never said anything about clutch, where did I say that Brett "won" us hte Philly game.

I don't think ANY player wins a game in a team game like football. But yes, I think certain players give you a better chance to win than other players. I.e. I don't think Brady "won" 16 games for the Pats last year but he certainly gives you a better chance to win than Cassel.

Which is what you seem to agree with from your sig, so I don't evne know what we're arguing about. Favre didn't "win" the Eagles game just like he didn't "win" any other game. And just like Rodgers didn't "lose" us any games but he hasn't shown that "it" yet, which is what this thread was orginally about.

"mi_keys" wrote:



I do not knwo how many times i have to say it..


If in GENERAL terms....

Aaron Rodgers got the label of losing the Minny game cuz he didn't get them closer..

Well Brett Favre had same exact distance and had 2 or 3 incompletions and got them no closer in the Philly game..but he gets that credit?

thats double standard..thats my only point..

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



If someone thinks that, I am 100% in your corner, thats a double standard. I remember that Philly game, Favre was NOT the "MVP".
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RedSoxExcel
15 years ago

so I don't evne know what we're arguing about.

"mi_keys" wrote:



semantics?

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



lol
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DarkaneRules
15 years ago
Everybody was rusty in that Philly game. That game sucked.

Last season was awesome. It was a dominant year. We played our weak division and the weakest AFC division and came out looking pretty amazing. People stepped up last season including Brett Favre. Teammates this year are gathering rust at all the wrong times. At one point it is the offense, another time it is the defense, and then it is the special teams. Having Brett around doesn't make a player do his individual job better. That is between the player and the coaching staff. Both ends have dropped the ball this season at different times hence our below average record.
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