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12 years ago
Arrigo,
I failed to say that I do believe the chances of Uncle Teddy trading out of the first round are pretty high.


edit- I thought it looked like GB was getting a lot. So I looked at one of those dubious trade calculators. It would be more like a 2nd and 5th than 2nd, 3rd and 5th.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Arrigo,
I failed to say that I do believe the chances of Uncle Teddy trading out of the first round are pretty high.


edit- I thought it looked like GB was getting a lot. So I looked at one of those dubious trade calculators. It would be more like a 2nd and 5th than 2nd, 3rd and 5th.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I'm going to have to take claim if the Packers trade out of round 1, since I'm the one who said it first and gave great reasons as to why it'll probably happen! 🙂 (Sorry Joe, this one is mine!!!) :P


Edit, I apologize Joe for those who ran wild with the thread. This being the off-season, normally I'm down with that, but it's clear you spent a lot of time into this post and I feel it deserves more focus to it ... even though I think you're nuts about the Packers tagging Matt Flynn. 🙂
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12 years ago
Arrigo I again apologize for blowing up your thread. I meant no disrespect.

Few questions/comments:

You have Bush leaving- He has been outstanding on ST. Do you feel GB doesn't want him because of his poor play on defense or do you feel another team will overvalue him and offer him more than GB feels he is worth?

If Walden and Zombo are gone do you see Jones as able to start at OLB? Has he developed enough for Ted to release both other players? I don't know if GB will go for Lewis. He may be all that they need for the position but as you said he has issues with his attitude. In general ted has avoided players like this in the past. Why the change?

You have them drafting 15 players. I don't think there are that many holes to fill. I could see Ted packaging a few of the picks to move up (outside the 1st round) and grabbing a better quality player than stock piling picks. And yes I know he can't trade compensation picks.

Assuming the need in the secondary is there your first 5 picks are all need picks. Ted seems to grab BPA picks that leave everyone wondering why he went the route he did. (Personally I wouldn't mind if he did address these needs) Ted also seems to find players who fall due to their injury history and feels they are worth the gamble. I am not familiar with most college players have you factored that into your choices?

With DD coming back with his restructured contract I don't see them picking 2 WR. Looking for another TE would make more sense to me since Quarless was injured.

All in all you picked a lot of different positions. I like it. As I mentioned it is a bit frustrating to see Ted grab several players at the same position while seemingly ignoring other positions that seem to be more of a need. But then what the heck do I know?
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Arrigo I again apologize for blowing up your thread. I meant no disrespect.

Few questions/comments:

You have Bush leaving- He has been outstanding on ST. Do you feel GB doesn't want him because of his poor play on defense or do you feel another team will overvalue him and offer him more than GB feels he is worth?

If Walden and Zombo are gone do you see Jones as able to start at OLB? Has he developed enough for Ted to release both other players? I don't know if GB will go for Lewis. He may be all that they need for the position but as you said he has issues with his attitude. In general ted has avoided players like this in the past. Why the change?

You have them drafting 15 players. I don't think there are that many holes to fill. I could see Ted packaging a few of the picks to move up (outside the 1st round) and grabbing a better quality player than stock piling picks. And yes I know he can't trade compensation picks.

Assuming the need in the secondary is there your first 5 picks are all need picks. Ted seems to grab BPA picks that leave everyone wondering why he went the route he did. (Personally I wouldn't mind if he did address these needs) Ted also seems to find players who falls due to their injury history and feels they are worth the gamble. I am not familiar with most college players hove you factored that into your choices?

With DD coming back with his restructured contract I don't see them picking 2 WR. Looking for another TE would make more sense to me since Quarless was injured.

All in all you picked a lot of different positions. I like it. As I mentioned it is a bit frustrating to see Ted grab several players at the same position while seemingly ignoring other positions that seem to be more of a need. But then what the heck do I know?

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Another team will overpay for Bush, imo. He might still be back, but I think teams value him as a ST'er.

As for Brad Jones, his value is in his versatility. He can play inside or outside. It's possible he might take a big step this year, since he'll have another offseason in the system but at this point I think he is what he is.

If we get another stud DE, we can get by with Zombo, Walden and Jones, just like we did in '10. But man I'd love to see us grab a nasty playmaker at OLB.

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zombieslayer
12 years ago
Bush isn't going anywhere. He's a fantastic ST player and despite what people think, he's serviceable as a #5 CB. Bush gets blamed for the injury bug when we should be blaming the injury bug. Find me better #5 CBs, then you're free to complain about Bush.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

Another team will overpay for Bush, imo. He might still be back, but I think teams value him as a ST'er.

As for Brad Jones, his value is in his versatility. He can play inside or outside. It's possible he might take a big step this year, since he'll have another offseason in the system but at this point I think he is what he is.

If we get another stud DE, we can get by with Zombo, Walden and Jones, just like we did in '10. But man I'd love to see us grab a nasty playmaker at OLB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




My partner in the Dojo of Coolness - no, no, emphatically no - can we get by with the three stooges at OLB. I've seen this movie many times. The 3-4 requires studs at both OLB positions, which means we need to draft some talent.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

Bush isn't going anywhere. He's a fantastic ST player and despite what people think, he's serviceable as a #5 CB. Bush gets blamed for the injury bug when we should be blaming the injury bug. Find me better #5 CBs, then you're free to complain about Bush.

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Would a more intelligent but less athletic #5 work in your mind? I love the effort Bush gives, but I don't think he has the cerebral ability needed for corner in the NFL. Of course there was that pick in the SB wasn't there? Man did Pittsburgh blow that game with Wood and Shields on the sideline. Let's run the ball, thanks Tomlin.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Bush isn't going anywhere. He's a fantastic ST player and despite what people think, he's serviceable as a #5 CB. Bush gets blamed for the injury bug when we should be blaming the injury bug. Find me better #5 CBs, then you're free to complain about Bush.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I think Jarrett Bush is going to be this years James Jones, in the sense that his value to the Packers outweighs the risk of signing him to enough money to pull him away from the Packers.

The players like and respect Jarrett Bush too. I think that has to say something about Bush.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

My partner in the Dojo of Coolness - no, no, emphatically no - can we get by with the three stooges at OLB. I've seen this movie many times. The 3-4 requires studs at both OLB positions, which means we need to draft some talent.

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It'd be nice.
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Yerko
12 years ago
Didn't know that stuff about Ronnell Lewis but that stuff sounds a bit minor for people to already be screaming "that's not Packer people!"

He is a great player and with good coaching and being surrounded by veterans like Woodson, Matthews, Raji, etc etc. those flaws can easily be overlooked.
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