Smokey
3 years ago

HMMMM...I like the first observation, the second I am not so sure.

Numerous first round draft choices and three big free agent signings would lead me to suspect it may not be the personnel.

There are three possibilities as to why the defense isn't good enough:[list=1]

  • The players aren't good enough
  • The coaches aren't good enough[*]Both 1 and 2[/list]As the expression goes in baseball, its easier to change the manager than change 9 guys on the diamond.

    Originally Posted by: KRK 

  • I don't believe that every defensive position needs change. ILB and the D-Line are not stopping the run. As for the Defensive Coach/s, possibly a change at one of the asst. positions, but let's not blame the cook for the ingredients he is given to work with. I would be thrilled if GB's next 1st round draft pick is an ILB or NT.
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    beast
    3 years ago


    Numerous first round draft choices and three big free agent signings would lead me to suspect it may not be the personnel.

    Originally Posted by: KRK 



    That's assuming 1st round pick and big free agents were good selections and wise investments.

    Just because someone is selected high, or given a lot of money does not automatic mean they're good. As I think you could claim a number of draft picks aren't living up to their selection.

    Also DT was arguably the biggest need and was never addressed, despite the scheme leaving the position more on an island, which means they need to be able to hold their own.
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    nerdmann
    3 years ago

    I that that means they're set up to pass rush, and suck at defensive the run.


    The Packers offense has absolutely sucked in the 3rd quarter it seems, Rodgers passing rating is less than. 57% in the 3rd. While in the 1st and 4th it's 72% or over.

    And interesting, Rodgers has scored more TDs in the 2nd quarter, than all the other quarters COMBINED!

    Packers are getting out coached/played with adjustment at halftime?

    Originally Posted by: beast 


    The third quarter thing is real. Thst needs to be addressed.

    What I see is turnovers. Without four turnovers, we dominate the Colts game.

    Here's another thing. Aaron is throwing off platform again. Earlier in the season it seemed like he was getting with the program. Now he's back to throwing fade away jumpers off his back foot. And his accuracy has decreased.

    We all thought it was just the wind in those Lambeau games. But if he hits MVS in stride on that 4th quarter play, that's a TD and we win. Dude had to come back for it, which allowed the defense to converge.

    Aaron has thrown a number if INTs recently. Step into your throws dude.
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    3 years ago

    That's assuming 1st round pick and big free agents were good selections and wise investments.

    Originally Posted by: beast 

    If not, then Gutey may be worse that TT. I would like to think that they would hit on 2 of 3 first rounders and most all of the FA as they are more proven commodity

    Also DT was arguably the biggest need and was never addressed, despite the scheme leaving the position more on an island, which means they need to be able to hold their own.

    AMEN


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    3 years ago
    Z2C posted in fan shout:

    Passer rating allowed in coverage for #Packers defense this season: Man Coverage: 83.2 (3rd) Zone Coverage: 104.3 (28th)

    This speaks to the lack of aggression in play calling.

    If our guys played more man-to-man, they would be closer to the line, more available for a run support, and be more available in blitz packages, in addition to probably playing better pass coverage, at least for the statistics
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    nerdmann
    3 years ago

    Z2C posted in fan shout:This speaks to the lack of aggression in play calling.

    If our guys played more man-to-man, they would be closer to the line, more available for a run support, and be more available in blitz packages, in addition to probably playing better pass coverage, at least for the statistics

    Originally Posted by: KRK 



    Tampa seemed to have a tell. Vikings just ran the ball, while our offense did nothing whatsoever to force them to pass.

    The defense is mediocre stopping the run. That's why we play better with a lead.

    FACT. The Colts had less than 4 yards per rushing attempt. Iirc.

    FACT. The D got a stop after Shephard's fumble and on that last drive, albeit assisted by all those holding calls.

    MVS fumbled in FG range. Thst's not on the D.
    “Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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    3 years ago
    I guess we will see how we do against the 32nd ranked rush offense in the league Sunday night.

    If the Bears run the ball on offense, will we continue to blame our offense?
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