dyeah_gb
a year ago

Yep. I'd rather have three WR2 than a single WR1 and two WR4. I'd defense knows where ball is going, might be a challenge. But then again, beat your man.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Agreed provided the opposing D is unsuccessful in single man or basic zone coverage. Things can get ugly really quick otherwise.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Agreed provided the opposing D is unsuccessful in single man or basic zone coverage. Things can get ugly really quick otherwise.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Definitely. Although, if you can't beat the man across from you, go play in the USFL!! hahaha
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Martha Careful
a year ago
dyeah_gb posted

Agreed provided the opposing D is unsuccessful in single man or basic zone coverage. Things can get ugly really quick otherwise.


I had always thought in play design and game planning, some of the patterns and plays were set up to provide an increased likelihood of getting open, like picks, rub, and other combination routes.

If the game plan is simply to have receivers go out to try to win one on one matchups, that is poor coaching IMHO.

Mr. Cool said

Yep. I'd rather have three WR2 than a single WR1 and two WR4.

which I totally agree with. But, I DON'T want the defense to know where the ball is going. If the defense believes any receiver could be a threat, then the likelihood that other receivers get open in enhanced.
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earthquake
a year ago
I generally agree with what has been said, especially the point about the defense knowing where the ball is going. But I think something that may be getting overlooked is how much a defense shifts coverage to a guy like Davante Adams. Generally, he's going to get the opposing team's best corner and a safety over the top, with maybe a 3rd guy in his vicinity on some plays. This opens up routes and opportunities for everyone else, including the run game.

If Randall Cobb, Sammy Watkins, and Allen Lazard are out there, does the defense have to key in on any of those guys? I'm not sure. Possibly Watkins if he's healthy and hasn't lost a step. Cobb is more of a possession guy at this point in his career. Maybe Lazard steps up with increased opportunities.

It's possible that Christain Watkins is or will eventually develop into the sort of guy that the defense feels like they need to take away. I wouldn't bet on this happening right away but I also wouldn't be surprised if he solidifies himself as the #1 by the end of the season.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I generally agree with what has been said, especially the point about the defense knowing where the ball is going. But I think something that may be getting overlooked is how much a defense shifts coverage to a guy like Davante Adams. Generally, he's going to get the opposing team's best corner and a safety over the top, with maybe a 3rd guy in his vicinity on some plays. This opens up routes and opportunities for everyone else, including the run game.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



I like what you say, but wanted to just add this as a little nugget. Bill Belichick and few other coaches have said they put CB2 on WR1 with Safety help over the top and then CB1 shuts down WR2. Of course, I believe this all depends on how good that WR2 is because if your WR2 is like Jeff Janis, you're not gonna deploy this tactic, lol.
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dhazer
a year ago

Watson and Doubs should be the primary targets when Love is ready to take over. Maybe Lazard, depending upon what he shows.

Hopefully, Love will hit the open guy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I keep reading how we should trade for another WR or we should trade Love and you hit something I have been thinking about. Let Watkins Lazard and Cobb run first-team offense and then you have Watson Dobbs and Rodgers running with Love. That second group is our future and I believe it will start next year as Rodgers will retire after this year and leave us with $65 million in dead cap, but if that happens you already have your young core developing together. I'm actually more excited about life after Rodgers than I am with Rodgers playing this year. We will see a drop in his production and all the Rodger lovers will have excuses for him like always, he didn't have recievers his line sucked blah blah blah. (in my mind an elite qb makes his players better and they don't depend on the others to make him look good which has happened to Rodgers.)

But also if we waste draft capital on trading for a wide out who do we cut? Cobb - not a chance Rodgers would take his ball and go home, Watkins nope not happening that was their big signing for Rodgers, Lazard, maybe Rodgers, not Watson or Dobbs, so who would it be then?

But back to a #1 wr actually hurt Rodgers and Favre in crunch time when it was Rodgers and Adams and Favre and Sharpe because no matter what they would force the ball to them and miss wide-open guys. So if Rodgers can bench his ego and just follow the game plan he has a chance to put up big numbers, because a defense can't concentrate on one guy.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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earthquake
a year ago

I like what you say, but wanted to just add this as a little nugget. Bill Belichick and few other coaches have said they put CB2 on WR1 with Safety help over the top and then CB1 shuts down WR2. Of course, I believe this all depends on how good that WR2 is because if your WR2 is like Jeff Janis, you're not gonna deploy this tactic, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, that makes sense. It probably depends on how good your CB2 is too. Are we talking Eric Stokes, Kevin King, or LaDarious Gunter?
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a year ago


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a year ago
Sammy is primed.



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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a year ago
Sammy is primed.



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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